on 11/17/08 11:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It might be easier to get Mailman's news-to-mail gateway to mail incoming Usenet messages to the list address instead of directly distributing them to the subscribers though. I don't believe Mailman does that out of the box (but I would love to be wrong here). Has anyone tried implementing that? If so, got a patch or a recipe for how to configure Mailman to operate this way?
Ironically, we run an external news-to-mail gateway at ntp.org, based on the long-existing standard tools in the INN toolbox. We do this because Mailman generates it's own message-ids when it gateways the articles from news to mail, and the news reading public for ntp.org complained violently. The mail-to-news gateway from INN re-uses the same message-id as was originally contained within the news posting, so when people refer to a given message-id, it's always the same regardless of whether or not they are using mail or news.
This is related to FAQ 4.59 at <http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030712>.
If we implemented a proper server-side read/post interface for Mailman, we could fix a lot of other USENET gateway problems, too.
For one thing, we would no longer need high watermarks for article numbers, we would instead track whether or not we've seen a given message (and therefore whether or not it needs to be gatewayed) based on whether we've seen that message-id within our lifetime window, and any articles older than the lifetime window would get ignored.
A server-side implementation would also allow us to directly feed outgoing articles to news routing servers, potentially bypassing a large news reader server infrastructure and being both more robust and more efficient. And we could take feeds from multiple upstream news routing servers, too.
But as I said recently on this mailing list, I'm not a programmer and I don't have the necessary skills to write a proper server-side interface for USENET news to be incorporated into Mailman.
So, I let this issue drop a few years ago when I first brought it up, although it does seem to come back up every so often.
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