Op 21-03-09 20:03 heeft Mark Sapiro als volgt van zich laten horen: > Hendrik Maryns wrote: >> I just started a new mailing list with Mailman. The welcome_msg is in >> German and contains üäö. Then I subscribed myself to the list and got >> the following: >> >> Hallöchen, Beiträge erwünscht, aber übertreibt es >> nicht, ne. > > > What is the list's preferred language? If it is English (or if it was > English when you set the welcome_msg), this is expected because > Mailman's character set for English is us-ascii and the page you're > posting from was sent with charset=us-ascii so your browser sends the > non-ascii characters as numeric html entities. > > If the list's preferred language is German, whose charset is iso-8859-1, > when you set the welcome_msg, this should not happen.
Indeed. The problem is that Mailman assumes a list is English by default. If I create a new list, I start editing its settings. What you see first, is the welcome message etc. Only afterwards, I click through to the language settings and change it to German. This causes the problem. So a useful RFE would be to either not assume English, or to ask for the language at setup (or at first administrator login, since often a sysadmin will create the list and then hand it over to the list admin). Also, I noticed it is not possible to *remove* English as a list language. I do not see why. I certainly don’t need it in my lists. >> Furthermore, if I know log into the admin area, it gives the same text, >> that is, with all non-ASCII replaced by entities! > > > The reason you see the numeric HTML entities rather that the browser's > rendering of them is over-protective escaping of the '&' in the HTML > entity, but in this case, that's actually appropriate because the > ultimate use of this message is in a plain text email where the HTML > entities won't be rendered as characters anyway. Yes. Caution is good, but isn’t this exaggerated? H. -- Opgepast | Achtung | Attention adressen gewijzigd! Adressen geändert! adresses changed! Hendrik Maryns Biesingerstraße 5 D-72070 Tübingen +4970717783365 hamar...@googlemail.com http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/
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