Ralph Prichard wrote:
>
>We imported about 1000 addresses from an old mailing list into a new
>Mailman list, and we were hoping Mailman's bounce processing would start
>removing any addresses that are clearly no longer valid. This is old
>info; if we've got a bad address, we just want it dropped without any
>further resuscitation efforts. Here are our bounce processing settings:
>
>bounce_processing = Yes
>bounce_score_threshold = 3.0
>bounce_info_stale_after = 21
>bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
>bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7
>bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = Yes
>bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = Yes
>bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = Yes
>
>These settings have been adjusted a few times, but not by any radical
>amount. I'm sure I also inadvertantly dropped the
>"bounce_score_threshold" from 3.5 to 3.0 while the latest message was
>still being distributed. However, the previous message exhibited the
>same problematic behavior I'm seeing today, and the values were all left
>alone during that period.
>
>
>After messages went out that resulted in bounce scores over the
>threshold, there were a couple of issues...
>
>
>1) Mailman tried to send a notification to the bad addresses indicating
>that they've been dropped from the mailing list. It does so despite the
>fact that "send_goodbye_msg" is set to "no". So my first question is
>almost identical to this one:
>
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052688.html
>
>Does anyone know how to get the bounce processing system to respect the
>"send_goodbye_msg" value, while still sending the moderators/list owners
>notification that an address has been dropped?
You can modify the code. In the definition of the
sendNextNotification() method, see
self.ApprovedDeleteMember(
member, 'disabled address',
admin_notif=self.bounce_notify_owner_on_removal,
userack=1)
and change userack=1 to userack=0 if you want no notice or to
userack=None (or just remove it) to use the list's send_goodbye_msg
setting.
However, what's the harm? If the address is truly undeliverable, it's
just one more residual bounce. If not, the user may possibly notified
of a problem.
>2) Mailman tried to drop 2 addresses (out of an apparent list of 55 bad
>addresses) over and over again, until after 10 attempts, when the
>BounceRunner stopped. (Nothing at all seemed to happen to the other 53
>addresses.) The first notification that the list owners received
>regarding the drop attempts referenced the actual message that a list
>member sent. But the next 10 notifications referred to the fact that
>the "You have been unsubscribed from the 'somelist' mailing list"
>messages were _also_ bouncing. (Which is another reason I'd like to
>suppress those messages from ever being sent in the first place.)
>
This is a bug in Mailman 2.1.11 that is fixed in 2.1.12 (it only occurs
if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is 0). The attached patch.txt file
contains a patch to Bouncer.py that will fix it.
--
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
=== modified file 'Mailman/Bouncer.py'
--- Mailman/Bouncer.py 2008-06-20 19:47:28 +0000
+++ Mailman/Bouncer.py 2009-02-16 16:53:20 +0000
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-# Copyright (C) 1998-2008 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+# Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
@@ -163,8 +163,10 @@
# We've set/changed bounce info above. We now need to tell the
# MemberAdaptor to set/update it. We do it here in case the
# MemberAdaptor stores bounce info externally to the list object to
- # be sure updated information is stored.
- self.setBounceInfo(member, info)
+ # be sure updated information is stored, but we have to be sure the
+ # member wasn't removed.
+ if self.isMember(member):
+ self.setBounceInfo(member, info)
def disableBouncingMember(self, member, info, msg):
# Initialize their confirmation cookie. If we do it when we get the
=== modified file 'NEWS'
--- NEWS 2009-02-14 22:25:29 +0000
+++ NEWS 2009-02-16 16:53:20 +0000
@@ -92,6 +92,9 @@
- Recognize a couple more bounces.
+ - Fixed a bug introduced in 2.1.11 which would attempt to store bounce info
+ for a member just deleted if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is zero.
+
i18n
- Updated Dutch, Catalan and Polish translations.
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