On 10-Sep-2009, at 15:04, Adam McGreggor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 02:53:43PM -0600, LuKreme wrote:
Or maybe there's something else I should do? Basically, I wanted to
tail -f /var/log/maillog and watch the message come in and get sent to
ensure the list was working properly.

If you just want to see that, why not set yourself/another account you
use as moderated, and watch your logs for that: the mail will get to
the list, but won't go beyond the checks, unless you otherwise chose.

What I am trying to see if the message get to the list, and the message get back out. I want to see what mailman does with it, and what postfix does to a message FROM the list.

Setting up a test list is an idea, but I have had situations where a one list didn't work (specifically a list on a virtual host) even though all the others did. Being able to see the full route would have helped in that situation.

A test list is great for testing mailman, but it doesn't test a specific list except the test list.


On 10-Sep-2009, at 16:04, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The trouble with this suggestion (and others) is that all it does is
stop the messages once it gets to the list. What I want to see is the
'full loop' of the message as I send it, and as it gets sent back to me.

Which by definition you can't strictly do because you have to alter the
outgoing process in some way to remove the other recipients so you are
not testing the original process.

I would see a message hit the mailserver, go to mailman, and then go from mailman to the server and out. This is the full loop.

So you don't trust Mailman.

Actually, in this case where I am most likely to see a problem is in a misconfiguration of postfix that doesn't allow the list message to be sent because it gets caught up in some anti-spam/anti-spoof measure I've implemented, or as I mentioned before, the case where everything works fine for local domains and regular /etc/postfix/virtual, but blows up on the mysql virtual domains.

You can accomplish what you want in a kludgey way (subject to the
above) with manual steps.

OK, I'll take a look at those.

Assuming I actually wanted to implement a feature to optionally send
posts to say list-owner instead of the elligible list members, how
would you want this to work? Would it be a list setting or triggered
by some magik in the post.

Neither. I think the best way to do this would be to have a list-ping email address where all it does is send you back your message as if it had been posted to the entire list, but sent only to you. That is, with footers attached, attachments, scraped, subject changed, etc. Whatever the message would like like had it gone out, that's what you get back, only you're the only recipient.


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