John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:18:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>This is all irrelevant. Since the posts from Gmane are arriving via the >>NNTP gateway, no membership tests whatsoever are applied to the post - >>no list member, no moderation, no *_these_nonmembers.
Actually, that is NOT the case, at least for the message in your follow-up post. See my reply to that (when it comes). >Okay, so to "authenticate" a small number of people eg. dozens what >should I have ? > >(1) The Gmane subscription ? >(2) The gateway ? >(3) Both ? I think the best thing for you to have is the Gmane subscription only. >Just tell me what you think is best. You are the expert here. Not me. >I am the dummy. > >I very much appreciate your help. At the end of the day however I want >to impliment a system that actually "works" ! > >>>There are so many headers I am totally confused as to which ones >>>can/should be filtered on and which ones shouldn't be. > >>You can use header_filter_rules to hold a post from the news gateway. >>You can filter on any header you want, but this won't work well unless >>you have fery few authorized posters. > >Well, is there a practical limit to the term "very few" ? Initially I >hope to increase subscribers to dozens. The number could however >reach something like a hundred. Would that "break" Mailman ? What >dictates how many are "too many" ? Too many is more than you are willing to maintain in header filter rules. Mailman doesn't care, but we apparently don't need to do this. See my next reply. >< snip > > >>>As I am an "authorised" poster the sort of filter that would be needed >>>that comes to mind would be something like... > >>>DELETE & ! From: {...@mydomain | mem...@hisdomain} > >>>But I have no idea how that would need to be implimented in Mailman. > >>Like the following in Privacy options... -> Spam filters -> >>header_filter_rules > >>First rule: >> regexp: ^from:.*[ >]...@mydomain([> ]|$) >> action: Accept > >>(either additional rules or additional regexps in the First rule for >>additional posters) > >Ah ! I like that. Do I insert the above EXACTLY as you have suggested >? > >regexp: ^from:.*[ >]...@mydomain([> ]|$) >action: Accept > >I need both the "regexp" AND "action" items ? > >Also, at what approximate number would you recommend expanding the >first filter rule in preference to adding new ones ? I am guessing >that there may be some sort of a "limit" set as to how many characters >in total can be in that box ? > >>Last rule >> regexp: ^X-Injected-Via-Gmane: >> action: Discard > >Okay. > >< snip > > >>They could post to Gmane via NNTP with Gmane sending to your list via >>email. > >Okay, so if I get rid of the gateway settings the above filters will >still work ? I will give you a recipe in the next reply, but the short answer is No. >>>> If so, it's little help, because >>>>the headers should be quite different from a mailed post.) > >>>Okay, see the added info I provided above. > >>Which contrary to your "Here are some of the headers as they appear >>when they arrive at the mailing list." assertion appear to be the >>headers from a post delivered from Mailman, not the headers of the >>post as it arrived to Mailman. > >Good point. Sorry. If I could show you the raw header info then I >would. > >>Note that Mailman has rewritten the Sender: and envelope sender >>(reflected as Return-Path:) and added Errors-To: and maybe Reply-To: > > >>[...] >>>>If not, and Gmane *isn't* in one of From, Sender, or envelope sender, >>>>then I don't understand how posts from unsubscribed addresses via >>>>Gmane are getting through, since IIRC you said earlier you have >>>>'generic_nonmember_action' set to 'Hold'. Right? > >>>Sorry, your terminology has confused me here. What do you mean by >>>'generic_nonmember_action' set to 'Hold'. ? > >>He means the setting near the bottom of the list admin Privacy >>options... -> Sender filters page. > >Ah ! Sorry. I am still very much a "newbie" here. I have > >By default, should new list member postings be moderated? set to "No" > >and > >Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list. set to >"Hold". > >I am not sure if I need to change either/both of those settings to >make sure the filtering you recommend works. See my next reply. >>>I have setup the list as "Require approval". Is that what you mean ? > >>That is presumably Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> >>subscribe_policy - not the same thing at all. > >Okay, thanks. I will not change that then. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org