David Newman wrote: >On 10/31/10 10:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 10/31/10 4:56 PM, David Newman wrote: >>> On 10/31/10 9:09 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] > >Here's a log snapshot of a message sent to [email protected], a Mailman list >with subscribers '[email protected]' and '[email protected]'. > >This is after removing 'hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/domain1-tld' from >virtual_alias_maps as you suggested and reloading Mailman and postfix. > >I'm embedded one comment and one question: > >Nov 1 11:51:29 mail postfix/postfix-script[5384]: refreshing the >Postfix mail system >Nov 1 11:51:29 mail postfix/master[19348]: reload -- version 2.6.5, >configuration /etc/postfix >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: connect from >mail3.networktest.com[69.55.234.104] >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/trivial-rewrite[29411]: warning: do not >list domain domain1.tld in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains > >This is a possible clue. I think postfix is set up so that domain1.tld >*is* a virtual domain. The server -- Mailserver, an email server >appliance from Allard Software -- stores domain info in a SQL database >and postfix calls that database here: > >virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/sql/domains.cf
Right. domain1.tld is defined to be a local domain because it is (indirectly) in mydestination. It is also in virtual_mailbox_domains and Postfix wants it to be in one or the other (either local or virtual) not both. Note that if you remove it from mydestination and make it strictly a virtual_mailbox_domain, delivery TO [email protected] will stop working. See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/ZoCj>. >Anyway, carrying on: > >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: A91E1130CB: >client=mail3.networktest.com[69.55.234.104] >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/cleanup[25359]: A91E1130CB: >message-id=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: disconnect from >mail3.networktest.com[69.55.234.104] >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: A91E1130CB: >from=<[email protected]>, size=1495, nrcpt=1 (queue active) >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: connection from localhost >[127.0.0.1] at port 45013 >Nov 1 11:51:59 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: processing message ><[email protected]> for [email protected]:62 >Nov 1 11:52:00 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: clean message (-0.0/5.0) for >[email protected]:62 in 1.1 seconds, 1467 bytes. >Nov 1 11:52:00 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: result: . 0 - >T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD >scantime=1.1,size=1467,[email protected],uid=62,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=45013,mid=<[email protected]>,autolearn=ham > >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/pickup[1233]: 03422130CD: uid=506 >from=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/pipe[16800]: A91E1130CB: >to=<[email protected]>, orig_to=<[email protected]>, relay=spamassassin, >delay=1.6, delays=0.33/0.02/0/1.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via >spamassassin service) >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: A91E1130CB: removed These (A91E1130CB) messages are the receipt if the mail from [email protected] to [email protected] and its delivery to spamassassin. >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/cleanup[25359]: 03422130CD: >message-id=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 03422130CD: >from=<[email protected]>, size=1762, nrcpt=1 (queue active) >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail spamd[18056]: prefork: child states: II >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/local[28131]: 03422130CD: >to=<[email protected]>, relay=local, delay=0.32, >delays=0.03/0.02/0/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: >/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post s) >Nov 1 11:52:01 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 03422130CD: removed And these (03422130CD) are the mail being requeued after spamassassin and delivered vi the local alias to Mailman. >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/trivial-rewrite[29411]: warning: do not >list domain domain1.tld in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: 80A72130CB: >client=localhost[127.0.0.1] >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/trivial-rewrite[29411]: warning: do not >list domain domain1.tld in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/cleanup[25359]: 80A72130CB: >message-id=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/smtpd[32434]: disconnect from >localhost[127.0.0.1] >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 80A72130CB: >from=<[email protected]>, size=2697, nrcpt=2 (queue active) >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: connection from localhost >[127.0.0.1] at port 5435 >Nov 1 11:52:02 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: processing message ><[email protected]> for [email protected]:62 >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: clean message (0.0/5.0) for >[email protected]:62 in 4.8 seconds, 2638 bytes. >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail spamd[10619]: spamd: result: . 0 - >scantime=4.8,size=2638,[email protected],uid=62,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=5435,mid=<[email protected]>,autolearn=ham > >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/pickup[1233]: 7027A130CD: uid=506 >from=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/cleanup[25359]: 7027A130CD: >message-id=<[email protected]> >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/pipe[16800]: 80A72130CB: >to=<[email protected]>, relay=spamassassin, delay=4.9, >delays=0.04/0/0/4.9, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via spamassassin >service) >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/pipe[16800]: 80A72130CB: >to=<[email protected]>, relay=spamassassin, delay=4.9, >delays=0.04/0/0/4.9, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via spamassassin >service) > > >I don't understand this entry. Since '[email protected]' never received the >message, and since postfix says it was delivered OK, and since there's >no indication of trouble in the Mailman logs, what happened to the message? > > >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 80A72130CB: removed >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 7027A130CD: >from=<[email protected]>, size=2759, nrcpt=1 (queue active) >Nov 1 11:52:07 mail spamd[18056]: prefork: child states: II >Nov 1 11:52:11 mail postfix/smtp[7413]: 7027A130CD: >to=<[email protected]>, >relay=mail3.networktest.com[69.55.234.104]:25, delay=3.6, >delays=0.03/0.04/0.39/3.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued >as EC0D3256A73) >Nov 1 11:52:11 mail postfix/qmgr[20853]: 7027A130CD: removed There are two message deliveries above. 80A72130CB is the delivery of the message from mailman with two recipients, [email protected] and [email protected], and was processed through spamassassin (there are spamd reports) and the two entries immediately prior to your last comment above say that Postfix's pipe delivery piped the message to spamassassin for both recipients. Then, 7027A130CD is the requeue from spamassassin of the message to [email protected] which was then delivered via SMTP to the MTA at mail3.networktest.com. But, there is apparently no requeue from spamassassin of the message to the [email protected] recipient. My guess is that your spamassassin process doesn't properly handle messages with multiple recipients. There are two things you could try. You could set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1 in mm_cfg.py to tell Mailman to deliver each recipient as a separate message. Or, probably better, you could put spamassassin_destination_recipient_limit = 1 in main.cf to cause Postfix to pipe only one recipient at a time to the spamassassin handler (see man 8 pipe). [...] >> Also, it appears you are taking >> <http://mailman.sourceforge.net/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html> >> much too literally. That section describes a complicated situation which >> is not typically encountered in practice. And yes, it should probably be >> heavily revised. > >Clarity is desirable and too rare in technical writing. I'd be glad to >propose revisions to sections 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 of the docs once I >understand how this should work. Thank you. I'd appreciate that. However, it now seems to me that you actually had the Mailman part of Postfix reasonably OK at the outset. The real issue now appears to me the use and configuration of spamassassin filtering in Postfix. Also note, You are doing way too much spamassassin scanning. You are scanning the inbound message before delivering it to Mailman, and then you are scanning the message again on its way from Mailman to the recipients. It might be better to set up a separate listener in Postfix on a different port and have Mailman deliver there and in Postfix only accept mail from Mailman (or localhost) on that port and bypass spamassassin for that mail. -- Mark Sapiro <[email protected]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
