> I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed
> > external to Mailman before that.

I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint
that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of
the appropriate qrunner be of some help?

> > The attached admindb.patch.txt file contains a patch that will log more
> > information to Mailman's 'debug' log.

See attachment.

Best regards,

                         André van Kan
Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288958492.854609, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member 
to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-18.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 
'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958491.90411, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 
'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288958518.006875, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member 
to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-19.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 
'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958517.782223, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 
'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
Nov 05 13:20:23 2010 (7531) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:20:31 2010 (7578) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:21:15 2010 (7771) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:23:06 2010 (8275) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:23:06 2010 (8275) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288959728.4165781, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na restart', 'Post by 
non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-20.pck', {'lang': 'en', 
'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288959727.4786589, '_parsemsg': True, 
'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
Nov 05 13:30:32 2010 (10349) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 13:30:32 2010 (10349) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288960053.2462881, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'after chmod datadir', 'Post by 
non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-21.pck', {'lang': 'en', 
'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288960053.0063901, '_parsemsg': True, 
'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, [])
Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288961730.2900341, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na NIS-edit mailman', 'Post by 
non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-22.pck', {'lang': 'en', 
'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288961730.0643179, '_parsemsg': True, 
'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) heldmsg file non-existent, info = 
(1288962000.6647379, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'datadir linked', 'Post by 
non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-23.pck', {'lang': 'en', 
'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288962000.0590451, '_parsemsg': True, 
'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 
'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 
'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 
'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed 
to post messages to this list.'})
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