Thanks Brad and Mark for your helpful and detailed replies. I have reached a point where I have the lists almost working but there are some issues still preventing the systems from functioning in a way that allows me to confident to launch these lists I wish to create.
Apple's support has been MIA at best so I have given up and decided to seek other alternatives. Also, the numerous individuals I have spoken with at Apple were clearly (1) not interested in making any improvements or fixing the current issues with the version of Mailman that ships with OS X Server and (2) didn't know any more about it than I do (which is quite embarrassing considering they are part of the company's business support department). I can't imagine that there is anything other than some minor set-up issues that need to be corrected with my system. After all, I am sending and receiving e-mails and the lists are functional (to an extent anyway) as they send and receive messages. However, as I stated above, I don't want to launch the lists only to attract subscribers and then find out in a short while that Mailman has stopped working because something with my system wasn't set-up properly. I also can't imagine that it would be too difficult to install a new version of Mailman and manage it using its browser-based interface while ignoring Apple's System Administrator tool for this specific task. Brad, since you have this much experience with OS X Server would you be interested in helping me with my problem ? In case you are, please contact me off-list so that we can discuss it. I believe you should be able to connect remotely, right ? In case you are not interested, would you recommend me someone who is knowledgeable on both OS X Server and Mailman ? I have contacted numerous Apple consultants but couldn't find a single one who had any experience with Mailman. Thanks again for your helpful replies. Best regards, Joe --------------- On 3/30/11 5:36 PM, "Brad Knowles" <b...@shub-internet.org> wrote: > On Mar 30, 2011, at 6:15 PM, JRC Groups wrote: > >> Is there anyone on the list who is familiar with both OS X Server and >> Mailman to help with this problem ? I am willing to pay a consultation fee >> to someone who can connect to my server remotely and help solve this issue. > > I've been an Apple consultant, at least part-time. I came within a hairs > breadth of doing that job full-time for a local Apple VAR. I've got all the > PDF versions of all the official Apple documentation on Mac OS X and Mac OS X > Server, as well as PDF versions of the good 3rd party books on the subject. > And I've been a professional Unix system administrator and consultant for over > twenty years. > > The guy who used to run lists.apple.com was involved in the development and > support of Mailman long before I came along, and has more experience in the > business than I do. > > I don't mean to sound pessimistic or to rain on your parade, but in both > cases, the solution was to blow away the stuff that Apple ships, and to > install the "real deal" code as downloaded from list.org. > > > The Mailman project is freely available open source (under a GNU license, no > less), and the support we provide is best effort. There is no commercial > version of Mailman that we sell or officially support. Anyone else that > includes Mailman as part of a commercial product or service that they sell, > should include with that a full after-sales support staff. > > > Note that there isn't going to be a separate "Server" edition of Mac OS X > "Lion". > > No one seems to know if this means that all the stuff that the "Server" > edition used to include will now be available to everyone, and that all the > people who developed the "Server" edition of Mac OS X have been transitioned > over to the mainline code development team, or if that means that a lot of > products and services will get thrown out the door as Apple re-focuses > exclusively on the retail/home user market. > > But that is certainly something that you should keep in mind as you look > towards solutions in this space. > > -- > Brad Knowles <b...@shub-internet.org> > LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org