Thanks Mark, that did the trick, ArchRunner started right up without any 
errors.  Fingers crossed the only thing left are the 542 messages in 
qfiles/bad.  They mostly seem to just be message headers that were bounces or 
the body was omitted.... Can they safely be deleted?

con

 
On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> On 12/24/2012 9:19 AM, Con Wieland wrote:
>> so the other thing I just noticed, which I think is what your getting at is 
>> that 
>> 
>> --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
>> 
>> is not running and I notice it is on another install of mailman that I have. 
>> But I can't find any thing error wise other than the below. Is there a way 
>> to start it manually (maybe that would produce an error)
> 
> 
> You can start it manually, but don't. Instead of 'restarting' Mailman
> which won't restart ArchRunner if ArchRunner has already exceeded it's
> died and autorestarted 10 times limit some time ago, 'stop' Mailman,
> make sure all the runners exit and then 'start' Mailman.
> 
> Also, don't remove entries from the archive queue before determining the
> issue with ArchRunner. These are messages to be archived and if you
> remove them, they won't be archived.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <[email protected]>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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