On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:51:05AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Also, you should check that indeed no spam *at all* is getting through > your list. Even one true spam will trigger some services' blacklists, > and you will go through hell (ie, huge amounts of bureaucratic > registering and proving your worthiness to send mail to their > customers) trying to get back on their good sides. If you *did* pass > *any* spam, or even a legitimate post from a user selling something, > be prepared to explain what you are doing to stop that in the future, > or demonstrate that your double opt-in process informs the users at > every stage that your list includes email solicitations (ie, if the > user didn't explicitly acknowledge they want them, they *are* UCE).
Way back in the early days of spam-fighting, using the term "double opt-in" was a sure way to get on various blocklists. There is no such thing. That was a code phrase twisted by the spammers, who wanted to claim that their possession of any email address was "opt-in", and any attempt to CONFIRM the opt-in was "double opt-in". If I was running an abuse desk and working an issue about "incorrectly blocked" email, it would be a huge help to me to know that the person I was dealing with really understood the issue. Use the term "confirmed opt-in", and you'll get a better response. Show that you understand the issue and are on their side, rather than just trying to get around them. -- *********************************************************************** * John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ * * * *********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
