On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Fil wrote:

I would suggest that, on the Web server, you just proxy /mailman/ to your
Mailman's web service.
If you're using apache, something like this on the Web front-end will do:


ProxyPass /mailman http://ml.example.com/mailman
ProxyPassReverse /mailman http://ml.example.com/mailman


If you're using varnish, all the better, just define the mailman URL as a
backend.

-- Fil

Hi Fil, thanks for the reply...

...I dont' know what 'varnish' is (in this context), but I do have Apache running services on two web server systems...

I've never heard of this ProxyPass, or ProxyPassReverse (no surprise there!) so please help confirm my new understanding of them: I take it that in the example you gave, the URL (http://ml.example.com/mailman) pertains to the internal system, and ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse are the two directions of a bidirectional feed that, in effect, makes the internal web server's targeted URL (namely, access to mailman) presented as "mailman" in whatever Apache container (like a virtual host) these parameters are included under?

So, that's making not the whole internal web server but JUST whereever that URL points to now be served by the external lable that's the first argument to ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse?

If I understand correctly, GEEZ THAT'S COOL, and _completely_ solves my dilema! Please Confirm I got it!

THANK YOU,
Richard


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Richard <rich...@karmannghia.org> wrote:

      Well Gang,

      I never did get mail working properly until this morning, and
      I'm just now focusing my attention back on mailman - can't worry
      about a mailing list manager when there's no competent mail
      services! (Note: FC19 is a bad choice for a server - I'll say no
      more about it.)

      ...This means we had our event and of course never had any email
      communications before it and, unfortunately, it was the worse
      for it...

      On Fri, 20 Sep 2013, Mark Sapiro wrote:

            cat /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Version.py and look at

            MAJOR_REV = 2
            MINOR_REV = 1
            MICRO_REV = 16
            REL_LEVEL = GAMMA


Thanks, Mark, I'v apparently been using 2.1.13.

I presume that, with the goal of restoring between versions, there
aren't any significant issues with either loading into mailman.x86_64
3:2.1.15-12.fc19, or possibly mailman-2.1.14-12.fc16.x86_64... I'm
still reading up on the articles you pointed me at.

Nobody responded regarding splitting web and email activities - is
this even possible? Right now is the time for me to decide which route
to take. Whichever route, it won't be fun!

Right now the email services are being performed by an older internal
server which has some good advantages for users, but it doesn't at
present expose web services, and I haven't got a gateway / firewall
that can forward port 80 because they're already in service serving
httpd... ...I'm concerned that running on other than port 80 will
cause other kinds of problems. I'm also not anxious to the risk of
opening up an nfs disk to such a system, but could that even work?

Any thoughts, please? If you think splitting things up is unrealistic,
please say so! Otherwise, I might be dumb (desperate) enough to try it
and I've lost a lot of time as it is!

Thanks much,
Richard

--
Richard Troy, Founder & current President
The Karmann Ghia Club of North America
4200 Park Blvd, #151, Oakland CA 94602, USA

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