On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, jason fb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as we know 
> them?  It seems to me that the means of production (the internet backbone, 
> the mail servers, etc) are now owned by Big Media (Comcast, Walt Disney, CBS, 
> Viacom, Time Warner) and it is in their interest to make sure they can sell 
> as much advertising as possible to the cattle.

That statement is even more relevant when you consider that some of
the biggest DMARC promoters offer (advertising revenue-based
electronic communication) services that they have always believed to
be a replacement for mailinglists.

> People who operate Mailman servers (you guys) are just the little guys who 
> are helping people facilitate non-advertisable communication between the 
> masses.
>
> This seems like a poignant example of the fiction of the distributed network. 
> The last 15 years of the internet history (indeed, the first 15 years of 
> internet history) has been the story of the consolidation of control into the 
> hands of the few, not the open and egalitarian peer-to-peer network utopia 
> that the internet was touted to be in populist culture.
>
> If I really have something to say to someone, I write it using ink and paper, 
> put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and drop it into an actual post box. 
> This way I know the NSA can't see it.

The USPS publicly acknowledges (which makes one wonder what they
haven't publicly acknowledged) that it regularly scans and saves
postal envelopes (postcards too!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_Isolation_Control_and_Tracking . 160
billion pieces in 2012, but don't worry it's only META data.

-Jim P.
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