On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 14:50 -0700, Peter Knowles wrote: > Mark, > > Preferably I'd like to transparently issue a command to Mailman backend > script(s). That is, my PHP UI would make localized changes to queue (for > scheduled changes) or directly via the "exec" (or similar) command (for > real-time changes).
The ~mailman/bin/export.py script outputs full list information in XML format. PHP has XML parsing capabilities which can probably pull the information you want from the output. Alternatively, running ~mailman/bin/dumpdb on the config.pck file for the list will provide you with much the same information, albeit parsing the information may be somewhat more difficult. This gives you read capabilities. Write capabilities are another matter. > Essentially, we want to be in a position eventually to completely cripple > the admin UI shipped with Mailman. Might this also disallow the use of the Services_Mailman PEAR module? > One of the problems that I face is, I'm not a Python developer, so if > existing Mailman python scripts can manage the "read/write" functions in > order to extract things and update things that'd be great. Peter, given the complexity of parsing the necessary information from the output of existing scripts, and the limited options with the existing scripts for inputting per-subscriber information, OR the complexity of interacting with the membership web-UI, any time you spend learning basic python scripting might well be a more effective use of your development efforts. Python is perhaps the most syntactically logical and easy to use of all the interpreted languages I've worked with, which includes a good number of them, and scripting of list membership management functions and I/O into a workable PHP-generated web UI would be almost trivial given decent PHP and related web development skills, once you have a basic understanding of the python code required to read and write the atoms of information which make up the subscriber database. It's not really all that complex, and you don't have to become a python expert to do it. If you understand PHP scripting and OO programming you're 2/3 of the way there. I know that Mark is the go-to guy on all things having to do with Mailman code, but as far as integrating system administrative functions into a web UI, I've had a lot of experience on my own hosting service, so I'm not exactly shooting in the dark here. Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt :) > *** I'm already familiar with the "config_list" script which my "audit" > script uses to maintain user/global config options we do not allow our > users to maintain themselves. (that is, technically a user can override a > setting we maintain currently, but within minutes the settings are reverted > via our automated audit process. *** config_list doesn't handle per_subscriber settings. > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > > > On 06/16/2014 02:01 PM, Peter Knowles wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm attempting to re-create the "Membership Management" using PHP. More > > > specifically, I want to be able to view, and modify all column data > > > associated with each subscriber in the same way the default Mailman UI > > does > > > (ex. Name, Email, MOD, Hide, Nomail, Ack, Not Metoo, NoDupes, Digest, > > > Plain, Language) > > > > > > Do you want to implement this capability with your own PHP pages or do > > you want your PHP pages to GET the admin/listname/members page, parse it > > and display the results in its own way, and POST changes back to the > > Mailman web UI? > > > > I.e. do you want to work through the existing Mailman web UI or bypass it? > > > > If you want to work through the existing UI, see the FAQ at > > <http://wiki.list.org/x/uIA9> which I'm sure will raise more questions. > > > > If you want to bypass it, you'll probably need to implement some helper > > scripts (Python scripts using Mailman methods do do the work) to do the > > actual data retrieval and updates, and invoke those from your PHP pages. > > > > -- > > Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. 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