DMARC aside, GMAIL users who don't wish their mail lists to end up in SPAM can easily set up a filter whose sole action is to mark the item "not spam". It's been a facility gmail provides long before the DMARC fiasco.
Settings->Filters->new filter->fill in criteria, probably the mail list "from" ->" Never send it to Spam" Keith Bierman khb...@gmail.com kbiermank AIM 303 997 2749 On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Barry S. Finkel <bsfin...@att.net> wrote: > On 8/28/2014 1:58 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I recently set up a Ubuntu 14.04 server with Mailman 2.1.16. It took a >> while for me to configure because I needed to modify the setup procedure >> from Ubuntu's instructions to what the mailman documentation suggested (no >> use of the postfix-to-mailman.py script). >> >> At any rate, my main goal has been to use mailman for an Indian Guides >> group, which for years has just been an email list of about 50 people. >> Mailman seemed like a great option to help ensure that all of the members >> are accounted for in each email and to have archives available. >> >> The problem that I'm having is that for some people on the list, they >> don't reliably get their emails. Mostly, this is from members that are on >> gmail.com or hotmail.com or in some cases ymail.com. The "lost" emails >> get stuck in their spam filter, and in some cases hotmail users don't get >> their emails at all. >> >> I did some testing with a practice list I created (sending to my own set >> of yahoo, gmail accounts), where my yahoo account was sending to members on >> a gmail account. I found no issue sending directly from yahoo to gmail, >> but from yahoo->mail list->gmail got caught in the gmail's spam filter. >> The gmail account spam folder would flag it and give me a note something to >> the effect of "The sender's yahoo.com address could not be confirmed". >> >> Furthermore, in the gmail account, I can mark the email as "Not SPAM" but >> that doesn't help on subsequent emails. >> >> >> As an experiment, I changed a few settings (from default Yes to No), but >> these didn't seem to make a difference: >> - Should messages from this mailing list include the RFC 2369 (i.e. >> List-*) headers? Yes is highly recommended. >> - Should postings include the List-Post: header? >> - Should the Sender header be rewritten for this mailing list to avoid >> stray bounces? Yes is recommended. >> >> >> My search for SPAM hasn't helped (most SPAM issues are related to actual >> SPAM getting in from user accounts). >> >> Have others encountered this type of issue? Are there any settings I can >> use or steps I can take to help resolve this? >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> -Alan >> > > Alan, I think that you are experiencing DMARC problems. You need the > latest Mailman (2.1.18-1) to handle DMARC issues. See the archives > of this list from this past April onward to read about DMARC and > Mailman. > > --Barry Finkel > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ > khbkhb%40gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org