Hi,

I have some lists that have message delivery bounces returned and I can’t quite 
understand what’s going on.

I’m using Postfix on the mailman server. In sending messages to either gmail or 
yahoo recipients, it seems to only work when the receiving end relays from a 
certain server, but errors when relaying through a different one. Not sure how 
to better explain so I’ll copy the examples here.

The recipient addresses are people in Brazil, and the error cases are when mail 
is being relayed through there

successful deliveries to yahoo and gmail, the relay shows a yahoo and gmail 
server respectively:
Oct 23 13:18:07 localhost postfix/smtp[6101]: 0B0B344071: 
to=<xxxx...@yahoo.com>, relay=mta6.am0.yahoodns.net[98.138.112.35]:25, 
delay=1.4, delays=0.01/0.19/0.15/1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)
Oct 23 13:18:30 localhost postfix/smtp[6099]: AC6FC44166: to=< 
xxxx...@yahoo.com>, relay=mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[98.138.112.33]:25, delay=22, 
delays=0.01/21/0.16/1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel 2/0)
Oct 24 06:18:54 localhost postfix/smtp[8152]: 61EF744176: to=< 
xxxx...@yahoo.com>, relay=mta5.am0.yahoodns.net[98.136.216.25]:25, conn_use=5, 
delay=19, delays=0.01/16/0.02/2.9, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel 2/0)

Oct 23 13:18:07 localhost postfix/smtp[6077]: 08E0F44070: to=<xx...@gmail.com>, 
relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.20.26]:25, delay=1, 
delays=0.01/0.61/0.05/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1445631542 
dl5si20130969pbb.108 - gsmtp)
Oct 23 13:19:04 localhost postfix/smtp[6052]: 27EFF4448E: to=<xx...@gmail.com>, 
relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.20.26]:25, conn_use=57, delay=51, 
delays=0.01/50/0.03/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1445631599 
is2si31916407pbc.241 - gsmtp)
Oct 23 13:26:59 localhost postfix/smtp[8446]: 220BF44B92: to=<xx...@gmail.com>, 
relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.28.26]:25, conn_use=4, delay=249, 
delays=0.01/248/0.06/0.43, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1445632074 
9si17275085ion.14 - gsmtp)


Bad delivery attempts to same recipients at yahoo and gmail, but this time it’s 
relaying through a server in Brazil:
Oct 24 06:27:26 localhost postfix/smtp[11544]: B7064449E0: to=< 
xxxx...@yahoo.com>, relay=mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241]:25, conn_use=17, 
delay=501, delays=0.03/501/0.2/0.21, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host 
mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241] said: 554 5.7.1 < xxxx...@yahoo.com>: Relay 
access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))

Oct 23 13:26:45 localhost postfix/smtp[8446]: 2039444A28: to=<xx...@gmail.com>, 
relay=mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241]:25, conn_use=9, delay=498, 
delays=0.01/497/0.25/0.21, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host 
mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241] said: 554 5.7.1 <xx...@gmail.com>: Relay 
access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Oct 24 06:27:22 localhost postfix/smtp[8165]: 334874492E: to=<xx...@gmail.com>, 
relay=mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241]:25, conn_use=2, delay=497, 
delays=0.03/497/0.2/0.22, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host 
mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241] said: 554 5.7.1 <xx...@gmail.com>: Relay 
access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))
Oct 24 06:27:26 localhost postfix/smtp[11417]: AFCF644249: 
to=<xx...@gmail.com>, relay=mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241]:25, conn_use=3, 
delay=501, delays=0.03/501/0.21/0.24, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host 
mx2.ibest.com.br[177.153.23.241] said: 554 5.7.1 <xx...@gmail.com>: Relay 
access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))


In all failure scenarios, the relaying server (for both yahoo and gmail 
recipients) was the same. But what exactly is the relay error? Is it 
complaining that my own server isn’t properly configured for relay, or is it a 
problem on mx2.ibest.com.br <http://mx2.ibest.com.br/>?

The info for my server and mailman is as follows:
Server: relay1.americasnet.com <http://relay1.americasnet.com/>
The lists address use either relay1.americasnet.com 
<http://relay1.americasnet.com/> or listas.americasnet.com 
<http://listas.americasnet.com/>. Both of these have MX and SPF records 
properly configured to point to relay1.americasnet.com 
<http://relay1.americasnet.com/>. 

So I don’t understand why would any server be bouncing back with a relay error.

Does anyone have any ideas to help me out?

thanks
Ricardo

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