On 08/30/2017 03:45 AM, Terry . wrote:
> 
> Below is the whole thing including headers and unsubscribe email attachment.
> 
> BTW, does this list allow me to attach files?  Might do that next time.


You can attach files, but only plain text (MIME types text/plain and
text/x-diff) will make it to the list.


> I've obfuscated some parts with "XXX".  Here it is.  See more comments below 
> the email.
> 
> 
> Return-Path: <[email protected]>
> Delivered-To: [email protected]
> Received: from serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com
>         by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with LMTP id gHWCD8eMplm6SwAA9jRSrA
>         for <[email protected]>; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500
> Return-path: <[email protected]>
> Envelope-to: [email protected]
> Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500
> Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=58524 helo=serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com)
>         by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.89)
>         (envelope-from <[email protected]>)
>         id 1dmznb-00069e-4b
>         for [email protected]; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:39 -0500
> Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=58490 helo=serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com)
>  by serverXXX.webhostingbuzz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.89)
>  (envelope-from <[email protected]>)
>  id 1dmznZ-000681-Me
>  for [email protected]; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:37 -0500
> Subject: Bounce action notification
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4320979077890092118=="
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:36 -0500
> Precedence: list
> X-BeenThere: [email protected]
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23
> List-Id: RLC All <all.riveXXX.org.nz>
> X-List-Administrivia: yes
> Errors-To: [email protected]
> Sender: "ALL" <[email protected]>
> 
> --===============4320979077890092118==
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
> 
>     List:       ALL
>     Member:     [email protected]
>     Action:     Subscription bounce score incremented.
>     Reason:     Excessive or fatal bounces.
> 
> 
> 
> The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
> 
> Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at
> [email protected].
> 
> --===============4320979077890092118==
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> 
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Subject: ALL unsubscribe notification
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Precedence: list
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:00:35 -0500
> X-BeenThere: [email protected]
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23
> List-Id: RLC All <all.riveXXX.org.nz>
> X-List-Administrivia: yes
> Errors-To: [email protected]
> Sender: "ALL" <[email protected]>
> 
> [email protected] has been removed from ALL.
> 
> 
> --===============4320979077890092118==--
> 
> 
> That's the end of it.
> 
> 
> In this case my email address is both the owner and an UNmoderated member of 
> the list, but I get the same problem when the owner address is not a member 
> of the list at all.


This is very strange. First of all, the "Bounce action notification"
notice about

>     Member:     [email protected]
>     Action:     Subscription bounce score incremented.

should only occur when [email protected] is a member of the list; never when
it's not.

Also, the notice you post has only two MIME parts; the text/plain notice
and the message/rfc822 message that bounced part. This latter part
should normally be the DSN (Delivery Status Notification), not the
message that bounced. Thus, it appears that this message is somehow
being processed as a bounce instead of being sent to the owner.

I would like to see all of the MTA (Exim) log messages relating to the
messages with Message-IDs
<[email protected]> and
<[email protected]>.

Also, Mailman's bounce, smtp and smtp-failure log messages from around
Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:45 to 05:01 may help.

Although, this appears to be cPanel, so you may not have access to these
things - see  <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030641>.


> If I click my email address link from the Membership List page, it says this 
> near the top, in case it is relevant:
> 
> 
> "We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your current bounce 
> score is 2.0 out of a maximum of 20.0. Please double check that your 
> subscribed address is correct and that there are no problems with delivery to 
> this address. Your bounce score will be automatically reset if the problems 
> are corrected soon."


That's normal.


-- 
Mark Sapiro <[email protected]>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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