El 06/06/18 a les 18:42, Mark Sapiro ha escrit:

The text is clear to me, but then I wrote it. What it says is there are
3 issues, bullet points 1, 2 and 3, and taking these in reverse order,
i.e. point 3 first and then point 2 and finally point 1.

I'm a language teacher and you can have my professional assessment for free: it is a very unclear text.

There aren't three issues but 2: either sublist members can't post to the umbrella list, or the umbrella list can't post to the sublists. And you have to tell the reader how to know what's causing the second issue, if it can really be caused by two different settings.

Anyway these issues, and especially the second, just defeat the purpose of an umbrella list, which means the umbrella list is only half set up, because you're holding the reader in the middle of the procedure instead of going straight through it. Wy don't you just tell us step two instead of rambling about what happens if you only do step one?

Why are the messages being rejected? Which of ther three bullet points
applies?

Well, how am I supposed to know? The Wiki doesn't describe the symptoms for each of them, if they're supposed to look different at all. All I get is a notification from each list's "bounces" address that the message was automatically discarded.

If it's point 1, scroll down to "The first issue can be hardest to deal
with." and read that.

If it's point 2, read the 4 paragraphs beginning with "The second issue
is when ..."

If it's point 3, add the posting address of the umbrella list to Privacy
options...->Recipient filters->acceptable_aliases of each of the sub-lists.

What about putting them in their logical order?
Also, when you write "There are a few ways to deal with this" in the middle of what is supposed to be issue 2, you should disentangle that mess into clearly numbered paragraphs 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3.

If you really don't have members of the sublists posting to the
umbrella, point 1 and possibly point 2 don't apply.


I just added the umbrella's address to the "acceptable_aliases" of one of the sublists but they're both still discarding messages from the umbrella.

Seriously, if you give a title like "How do I set up an umbrella list?" to a wiki article, you'd better write it like a howto, with a step by step procedure like "if you want A, do either B and C or D and E", without getting distracted explaining the technical nitty-gritty of why you have to set this and this like that. Or get all that out of the way and into a footnote. On the other hand, you're too scarce on really necessary information: what's the "@Listname syntax" that might fix the second problem?
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