On 2/27/19 2:03 PM, I wrote:
> On 2/27/19 12:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> On 2/27/19 9:36 AM, John wrote:
>>> hmmm...  I have mailman on 2 systems. One does not start on boot. 
>>> Referencing
>>> the manual link, I have no misc/mailman on either system.(?) Both systems 
>>> are
>>> ubuntu (different versions), with Virtualmin.
>>
>> misc/mailman is in the source distribution. If you installed the
>> Debian/Ubuntu package, you probably don't have that, but it appears you
>> do have /etc/init.d/mailman
>>
>>> From the failing system:
>>> root>systemctl status mailman
>>> ● mailman.service - LSB: Mailman Master Queue Runner
>>>    Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mailman; bad; vendor preset: enabled)
>> These are normal.
>>
>>>    Active: inactive (dead)
>> This of course is not.
>>
>> Are the ownership and mode of /etc/init.d/mailman the same on both
>> systems and is there any difference in the contents?
>>
>> You might try 'systemctl enable mailman' on the non-starting system.
>>
>> -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco 
>> Bay
>> Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
> 
> I forgot I found the problem before, reminded myself by debugging again... ;-)
> The directory /var/run/mailman is going away on reboot, so mailman can't 
> create
> the pid file. The work-around is to create /var/run/mailman with the proper
> permissions & ownership and start the mailman service. I'm going to compare 
> my 2
> init.d files, if there is no difference, I am going to patch the init.d file 
> to
> check for /var/run/mailman...
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 

scratch the patching...  apparently something on my system is wonky, as mailman,
as expected, correctly tries to set up the required directories.

John

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