At Mon, 17 May 2021 13:41:46 -0400 Jayson Smith <jayb...@bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> > Hi again, > > > Last night I posted a message about Mailman and/or Sendmail failing to > deliver Emails to a particular address with an upper case first letter. > Two of you pointed out that the mail was probably stuck in Sendmail's > outgoing queue, and if it wasn't, the Sendmail logs would show what > happened to it. Turns out, you were right. Sendmail did not have those > messages in its outgoing queue, and the logs didn't show what happened > to them??????until I suddenly remembered something, and realized I'd been > making a stupid newbie mistake all along, and I am not a Linux newbie by > any means! I'd been using Grep to search logs??????and I'd forgotten that > Grep searches, by default, are case sensitive! When I took that into > account, the nonexistent log entries showing this user's mail going out > suddenly started existing, wouldn't you know it! > Not an entirely stupid mistake -- 99% of E-Mail address are all lower case. The "username" part of an e-mail address is case insensitive and generally with Linux and UNIX, usernames are almost always all lower case. But sometimes non-UNIX users sign up to mailing lists and capitialize their E-Mail address, since usually the E-Mail address is starting with their name and they routinely capitialize their name. A Linux / UNIX is used to usernames being all lower case and so think of E-Mail addresses as being all lower case. The -i option is a usefull option to use with grep, even when it might be redundent. > > Turns out what's really happening is that all mail from this list is > going into this user's junk folder. I'm going to ask if he has a > button/option to declare such mail to not be junk so hopefully this can > be corrected. *Some* free mail services sometimes do odd things to E-Mail from Mailman lists. Ranging from considering all such mail spam to pre-filing them as newletters or something. Many inexperienced users of these services have no idea that this is happening and often have no clue how to find out where their mail has gone, any will complain to the list admin that they are not getting any messages from the list. > > > Thanks, > > > Jayson > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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