Also posted this question to the mailman3 list yesterday. Andrew
Hodgson sent an informative answer, so that's probably it. "Amazon SES
rewrites the Message-ID. Yep and for this reason I don't use it. The
problem is worse in Mailman3 because it has a much more superior
archive display which gets ruined when people reply to messages with
different Message-Id headers and the threading can't be observed. I
also had to use the anonymous mode with my list as Amazon didn't like
me using random addresses in the From: header. I'm still looking for a
tolerant mail gateway to use with Mailman."

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:18 AM Sam Darwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are running mailman2 with postfix and CentOS. For a long time the
> mail gateway was mailgun. Recently switched to Amazon SES.
>
> Now there are complaints that "threading" isn't right. That is,
> organizing the results according to topic, and correlating replies
> with specific other replies.
>
> It turns out that "The Amazon Simple Email Service (AWS SES) rewrites
> the Message-ID header of outgoing emails."
>
> This means the References and In-Reply-To headers can't be relied on
> anymore also, since they won't always match up. These headers:
>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> References: <[email protected]>
> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>
> might now appear as:
>
> In-Reply-To: 
> <010f0187dca41ec8-478dfff5-d27d-4879-ab72-072be2f76176-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com>
> References: 
> <010f0187d80eb0dd-93bebdd9-cabf-4ad6-a7f4-b5515bd22d31-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com>
> <010f0187dca41ec8-478dfff5-d27d-4879-ab72-072be2f76176-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com>
>
> But perhaps a main problem is that for a large outgoing mailing, the
> Message-ID might not be consistent when sending to 1000's of
> recipients. Maybe not everyone sees the same Message-ID.
>
> Any thoughts on the topic?
>
> Has anyone used Amazon SES, and does the "threading" in the archives
> line up correctly?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
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