Hi,
sorry for this typo I made...
I implied my complaints are with MailMan 2, and I wasn't thrilled with some
changes but it's MM3 that's the headache.
I'd be happy to go back to say, how it was in 2019 or something like that.
What, v 2.1.28 or some such.
I just want to be able to have something I can actuall MANAGE from the command
line without having to learn a friggen programming language. All I have to do
is SIMPLE BASIC STUFF, like, you know, create lists, add people to them and so
forth! And I'd like to avoid use of containers and other noise that I have
absolutely NO use for (other than mailman).
Thanks,
Richard
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote:
Hi All,
I used to use plain-ole mailman, WAY back in the '90s, BEFORE mailman2 and
LONG before mailman3... And I sure wish mailman2 had been done by people who
had a sense for the challenges for normal non-developer system managers to
deal with the software they actually developed. I'm sure it's fine if you're
already a Django programmer and use "containers" all the time, but I'm not a
Django fanboy, don't ever care to be, and think the idea of containers is
inappropriate technology for a hell of a lot of use-cases, especially a
small, self-run, no-budget installation.
But maybe the worst is that the developers of that stuff can't be bothered
to create a wrapper so you've got ONE consistent way to do things from the
command line?! WTF?! What the he... OK, no reason to get into a rant. Ya
know, I tried it, gave it a fair attempt, and given my experience, if I
wrote what I think of it here, I might get banned!
So, I'm done with it and want to go back to the old stuff. I'll happily
build from source, etc. But my simplistic web searches haven't returned
results and I'm afraid I didn't keep great records about it back when since
it was just a part of my Fedora package system!
So, any pointers for this long-in-the-tooth Fedora Sys Admin?
Thanks folks,
Richard
(from somewhere in San Franciso's east bay area...)
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