On Sun, Aug 23, 2026 at 10:53:47PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 8/23/26 21:55, [email protected] wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2026, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > >  Note that DMARC is a demand by *senders* that receivers reject email
> > >  apparently from them in certain circumstances.  If there is a non-null
> > >  DMARC policy, most recipients will respect it.  But (outside of the
> > >  authoritarian crank faction of the IETF's email working group) I've
> > >  never heard a suggestion that *recipients* should demand a DMARC
> > >  record of senders.
> > 
> > WOW, in what decade have YOU been sending emails on a list? Not recently!
> 
> Steve was responding to the assertion in the post at 
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/UYBJRLGIUSYHHRMS74MGCIHSIYAFJ7QM/
> that "Most of the email servers in the world now require DMARC records or
> they will reject your emails."
> 
> I.e. the assertion is that even if my mail passes DKIM and SPF with a domain
> aligned with the From: domain (i.e. passes DMARC with flying colors), it
> will be rejected if my domain does not publish a DMARC policy. Are there
> really major recipient domains that will reject my mail solely because my
> domain doesn't publish a DMARC policy.

If you send over 5,000 emails a day to Google or Microsoft hosted
recipients, you *must* use DMARC apparently (amongst requirements).

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?sjid=3367894452285755714-EU

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoftdefenderforoffice365blog/strengthening-email-ecosystem-outlook%E2%80%99s-new-requirements-for-high%E2%80%90volume-senders/4399730
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