On 27 Oct 2016, at 11:53, Gary Hull wrote:
Randy,
By putting individual's email addresses in the To slot, you're causing
mailing list conversations to show up in the Inbox even if the mailing
list is redirected to the Mailing List mailbox.
It's worse than that. The list seems to be configured to add its own
Reply-To header directing replies to the list and apparently has
MailMan's "Avoid duplicate copies of messages" feature set on by
default. The result is that I never received the message Randy sent via
the list. Adding to that, because I use a distinct address for every
discussion list I'm on, I filter everything sent to one of those
addresses which is NOT via the list into a slopbucket mailbox which is
almost all spam to the address I use on the SpamAssassin list (ah, the
irony...) So if one sends a message to me "offlist" I'm unlikely to see
it soon and if it is CC'd to the list, I never get the copy via the
list.
Please only put MailMate Users in the To slot. Bill, et al., will
still see it. If you need to put an individual's email there, hide it
in BCC.
Or just honor the Reply-To and don't generate duplicates.
But, moving on to the point of the thread...
On 27 Oct 2016, at 23:43, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, i decided to test.
o i am in SOURCES
o i subscribed to Deleted Messages on the server
o i delete a message from my inbox with the DEL key
o i look in Deleted Messages; there are eight messages there but
not
the one i just deleted
MM has for some reason decided that Some Other Mailbox is your logical
"Deleted Messages" mailbox, not the one actually named Deleted Messages.
o the right click menu on Delete Messages does not offer to empty
the
mailbox
o i look manually (ls) on the server and the eight messages are in
that mbox file, but not the one i just deleted from my inbox
Because the mailbox named "Deleted Messages" isn't the IMAP mailbox that
MM thinks is operationally the account's trashcan. It just happens to
have a matching but entirely non-magical name. My guess is that
*something* is using that mailbox (or did at one point) but that
unsubscribing MM from it caused MM to create a new mailbox to play that
role.
o use my other imap client and it sees that deleted message still
in
the inbox
That's wrong. That client is out of sync with the server OR is ignoring
the \Deleted flag.
o i go back to mailmate but to Deleted Messages in MAILBOXES, and
that
message and a hundred others are there
You can determine which mailbox *THAT* is: with a message there,
right-click on the column header and select Source Mailbox.
My bet is that it's named Trash.
o right click on Deleted Messages in MAILBOXES does offer an empty
mailbox option
Of course it does: that's the IMAP source mailbox MM thinks is the
logical Deleted Messages mailbox.
o i take the empty mailbox option and go back to INBOX in SOURCES.
the nine messages are there and colored red. in a minute or so
they
go away
That's positively weird. How did they get back THERE??? The red text
means that there's a pending operation involving those messages. It's a
bit disconcerting that you see them there AND that it takes more than a
few seconds for them to go away.
o my other imap client can no longer see that deletd message
so, Deleted Messages in MAILBOXES does not have the same semantics as
the one in SOURCES
I'm pretty sure this is primarily a problem of mistaken identity. It is
not clear to me why messages are re-appearing in INBOX, but I bet it
will be fixed by finding what mailbox you're looking at as
Mailboxes->Deleted Messages->[accountname] by right-clicking on the
Sources->[accountname]->Deleted Messages mailbox and selecting Mailbox
Type->Deleted Messages.
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