Thanks, Shoshanna. Fascinating. Where in MM did you see the
‘throttled’ message? I don’t see it now, but I often don’t see
what’s in front of my eyes! FWIW, I have not had any series
up/download activity with gmail, so I don’t think they would have a
reason to throttle me, but who knows…
On 26 Mar 2026, at 16:49, Shoshanna Green wrote:
I'm seeing a similar problem with a start sometime in the last few
weeks; I don't use tags, but messages I delete in MailMate on my
desktop are often still in the inbox in Mail on my iOS devices and in
the Gmail web interface.
The problem first started happening a month or two ago when I set up
MailMate on a new laptop. MailMate dutifully began downloading
alllllll my mail to its new installation, which was so much traffic (I
guess) that Gmail throttled the account; while throttled, deletions I
did on that laptop (and moves of messages from the inbox to folders)
weren't correctly carried out in the cloud or echoed to other MailMate
installations. MailMate on that laptop has long since finished
synching, and everything seemed fine for a while, but now MailMate
deletions on my desktop often have the same problem.
I assumed that Gmail was throttling me again, for some unknown reason,
although I didn't ever catch the account actually showing "throttled"
-- until earlier today, when the "throttled" label did appear briefly
on my desktop MailMate installation.
Zvi, any chance your account is also being throttled?
If that's not the cause -- and again, I didn't actually see my account
marked "throttled" for most of the time that deletions have failed to
work, but I might have missed it -- I too would love to know what it
might be!
On 26 Mar 2026, at 15:28, Zvi Biener wrote:
Hi All,
I wonder if anyone has run into the following behavior, or can think
of why it is happening.
Basically, it seems like MM is not moving Gmail inbox messages to the
trash, and not changing their read status. I know that the MM/Gmail
interaction is tweaked insofar as tags are concerned, but my setup
has worked for years, but something changed in February.
The flow is this: a message comes into the Inbox. It is matches
certain criteria, it is deleted (using the “Delete”) action in
the rules, and then a tag is added to it; say, “Marketing”. I am
*not* subscribed to the “Marketing” folder in my gmail account
from the MM side, since I want the tags to show *as tags* (for reason
irrelevant here). The message remain unread, and I see it in a MM
smart mailbox defined by the “Marketing” tag. (I’m not sure why
it is deleted first and then tagged, as opposed to tagged and
deleted; I set this up ages ago and remember having a reason, but I
don’t remember what).
This all looks perfectly fine from the MM side — the message’s
source mailbox shows as Gmail/Trash and it is tagged properly. But
the message is not actually moved to the Trash folder in Gmail, and,
even after it is read in MM, remains as unread in Gmail. If I flag
it, it does not become flagged in Gmail. However, if I flag it in
Gmail, it becomes flagged in MM; but if I then unflag it, it does not
unflag in Gmail.
I don’t think this is related to an update in MM, since the
timestamp on my MM app is from October, and the issue seems to have
started in February. But I’m using the 6290 version.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Zvi
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