Is this worth bringing up to the appropriate IETF group?  Perhaps it could be 
errata for RFC 7208 Section 5.4?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Steve Atkins
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:18 PM
To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] SPF check overly stringent?


> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Frank Bulk <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
> 
> We're helping a customer (sigiowa.com) who's having issues sending emails to
> the USDA.  Our email server logs this:
>       Site usda.gov (2a01:111:f400:7c10::10) said after data sent: 450
> 4.7.26 Service does not accept messages sent over IPv6
> [2607:fe28:0:4000::20] unless they pass either SPF or DKIM validation
> (message not signed)
> 
> Just this morning I changed their SPF record from this:
>       "v=spf1 mx ip4:96.31.0.0/24 ip6:2607:fe28:0:1000::/64
> ip6:2607:fe28:0:4000::/64 ~all"
> to this:
>       "v=spf1 ip4:96.31.0.0/24 ip6:2607:fe28:0:4000::20
> ip6:2607:fe28:0:1000::/64 ip6:2607:fe28:0:4000::/64 ~all"
> 
> I added in ip6:2607:fe28:0:4000::20 because I'm wondering if the USDA's
> system doesn't properly identify the sending IP of 2607:fe28:0:4000::20 as
> part of 2607:fe28:0:4000::/64.  I also removed 'mx' because this tool
> (http://vamsoft.com/support/tools/spf-policy-tester) was failing on pulling
> the AAAA for each of the domain's four MX records.  Try the vamsoft site
> with 2607:fe28:0:4000::20 and to see how sigiowa.com
> used to fail.

http://tools.wordtothewise.com/spf/check/premieronline.net

... looks fine to me.

> 
> Is Vamsoft's check too stringent?

More like "broken" - but I can see how RFC 7208 might make them think it's 
correct behaviour if they didn't think about real-world use of DNS.

>  Does it seriously matter that it can't
> find the AAAA for the domain's four MX records?  Shouldn't an SPF check for
> the domain's MX records just look for an A or AAAA?

Cheers,
  Steve



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