The biggest problem is that the 4/5xy codes are what to do about THAT message. 

Big senders and big receivers are trying to use them to answer a different 
question: what to do about the NEXT message. With a few exceptions legitimate 
ESPs accept a 5xy as “don’t try this message again” and a 4xy as “keep trying 
until timeout”. (There are a couple that reattempt 5xy from different IPs, for 
reasons.) 

We have a de facto standard that’s evolved based on what the ISPs are returning 
and how bulk senders are interpreting them. But the SMTP response codes are not 
meant to transmit the information we’re using them to transmit. 

laura 


> On Jun 20, 2016, at 6:08 AM, Vick Khera <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Stefan Haunß <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> however, IIRC there was also a M3AAWG BCP covering this questions.
> 
> I don't recall there being a BCP about this. There was a panel discussion 
> last week at the conference, and most people in attendance agreed that there 
> needs to be much more discussion about it. The context was more in the area 
> of delivery rates, but I think it applies in general.
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