Michelle Sullivan wrote:
Vick Khera wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Michelle Sullivan <miche...@sorbs.net
<mailto:miche...@sorbs.net>> wrote:
So taking your blatant attack literally which I was under the
impression was against list policy, lets instead attempt to be
constructive and have a clam discussion... "SORBS does not seem
interested in solving problems, but in punishing people." quite
the opposite is in fact true, but often is could be seen this way,
what would *YOU* suggest we do instead, and what do *YOU* perceive
as "not interested in solving problems" and what do *YOU* perceive
as "punishment"... and I will answer why we can/cannot implement
such policies/changes... you never know we might come up with
changes that work better for everyone, though having been around
this very attack many times in the past, I'll be upfront and
honest... I highly doubt it.
So if you're goal is to solve problems, then what's the point of
having a minimum 48 hour block when the problem is solved at the
origin within minutes? That's just punitive and not constructive.
It was chosen as a balanced figure, the balance between stopping a
spammer and allowing an innocent to delist, not to mention stopping a
clueless/homeuser/enduser from delisting an ISP's mail server before
the admins find the issue and resolve it. Bare in mind, those with
"ISP login" (NetManager Access and the appropriate permissions) can
delist regardless of the 48 hours, those without the login cannot and
have to rely on the robot if not using the IP specifically as the
robot will also adhere to the 48 hours.
Therefore, I'm not even going to discuss the issue of 'problem solved
within minutes' issue at this point as you will note the above covers
where this is likely to be true, as apposed to those (who we get on a
regular basis) who claim to have 'fixed the issue' whilst we are
noting spam still emanating from the host(s)... (don't know if they
just cluelessly fail to flush the queued spam to /dev/null or whether
they are just saying anything to get delisted - I suspect both in many
cases.)
Next!?
Still waiting Vick... What else needs to be solved?
Michelle
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