> On May 22, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net> wrote:
> 
>> ARC is the very-near-future solution to much of this. Get your vendors on it.
>> http://arc-spec.org
> 
> I'm missing something.  What keeps a bad guy from setting up shop and 
> claiming to be forwarding mail and claiming that SPF was valid on the crap he 
> is sending?
> 
> It seems to me that a critical step for doing things right is that the user 
> has to get involved and agree to receive forwarded mail, including all the 
> spam that gets past the spam filters at the forwarder.  I think that would 
> work for geeks but it's probably too complicated for the typical user.  Do 
> you have to be geeky enough to set up forwarding?
> 
> The same holds for mailing lists but you don't have to be a geek to get added 
> to one.  I think it would be great if the mail environment asked me if I 
> wanted to get added to a list before it started accepting mail for that list. 
> I wonder if a typical user could handle that.
> 
> I don't know what happens to transactional mail.
> 
> Is this only going to work for big players who generate or receive enough 
> traffic so the receiver can develop a useful reputation?

Go read https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-usage-01 for an initial
discussion of most of the important pieces of that.

Cheers,
  Steve


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