We have seen similar blocks recently pop up at Hotmail in the past few days on dedicated IPs of very legitimate senders whose lists are sparkling opt in.
Hotmail accused these senders of Namespace mining, which might be the same category as what you are seeing as "harvesting". This just isn't true. It seems like they are changing some things up, resulting in some false positives. On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:57 AM <mailop-requ...@mailop.org> wrote: > Send mailop mailing list submissions to > mailop@mailop.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mailop-requ...@mailop.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mailop-ow...@mailop.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mailop digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. unsubscribe (Ram Sripracha) > 2. Re: Contact Cloudmark ? (David Hofstee) > 3. Hotmail is blocking our mail relay IP range (Jean Benoit) > 4. Re: Contact Cloudmark ? (Udeme Ukutt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:35:17 -0700 > From: Ram Sripracha <rsrip...@ucla.edu> > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: [mailop] unsubscribe > Message-ID: <927cfa79-54cd-46a0-c5a3-bd1d013d1...@ucla.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > unsubscribe > > On 9/19/17 8:59 PM, mailop-requ...@mailop.org wrote: > > Send mailop mailing list submissions to > > mailop@mailop.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > mailop-requ...@mailop.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > mailop-ow...@mailop.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of mailop digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Outlook/Hotmail AS3150 block (Benjamin BILLON) > > 2. Re: Outlook/Hotmail AS3150 block (Michael Wise) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:54:13 +0800 > > From: Benjamin BILLON <bbillon...@splio.fr> > > To: "mailop@mailop.org" <mailop@mailop.org> > > Subject: Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail AS3150 block > > Message-ID: > > < > cajgb_dejy-2n7r8v+cdcmk41enyai1dypwbqo3co8xhx3d2...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello, > > > > I've seen samples with AS3140, and AS3150, maybe there are others. Is > there > > a major difference we should understand and care about? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:30:10 +0200 > From: David Hofstee <opentext.dhofs...@gmail.com> > To: James Hoddinott <borm...@gmail.com> > Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact Cloudmark ? > Message-ID: > < > cakxmaxxflqsl8jd+-eoykfbv4vevkzxhikzgw1onqy5eds5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi James, > > Your website indicates you provide services that "just do not work" for > email. It may be legally allowed but that does not mean your recipients > want and expect those emails. > > E.g. co-registration. In my opinion, many of the companies I met that did > that, just use it for "want to win an Ipad? Register here". This translates > to "spam me with your emails for a chance of happiness". So basically these > emails are unwanted. It is something else they are after, but not the > email. Unsubscribing is usually a problem as well (you should be able to > unsubscribe as easily as you subscribed; which is technically difficult if > you sell your list to 20 organisations). I have never seen it work even if > executed perfectly and fool-proof (bigger fools exist than you can > imagine). > > So people complain on these emails. The definition of spam. It does not > work. Similar stuff for your other services. Be happy you are not on > Spamhaus. Change business model while you can. > > > > David > > > On 19 September 2017 at 15:32, James Hoddinott <borm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You appear to do epending. This pretty much ends any discussion. > > > > On 18 September 2017 at 16:38, Romain Cambien via mailop < > > mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Friday, Cloudmark blocked multiple IPs on our main IP bloc. > >> I tried the reset form and multiple contact forms from their website > >> without any response. > >> > >> How can I contact the support to discuss our problem ? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Romain Cambien > >> Directeur Technique > >> > >> [image: WebRivage] <http://www.webrivage.com/> [image: OptinCollect] > >> <http://www.optincollect.com/> > >> [image: société du groupe WebRivage] <http://www.webrivage.com/> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mailop mailing list > >> mailop@mailop.org > >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mailop mailing list > > mailop@mailop.org > > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > > > > > -- > -- > My opinion is mine. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/mailop/attachments/20170920/a74a2e76/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:52:45 +0200 > From: Jean Benoit <j...@unistra.fr> > To: mailop@mailop.org > Subject: [mailop] Hotmail is blocking our mail relay IP range > Message-ID: <20170920085245.4qsgcqikh6bbh...@seti.u-strasbg.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi, > > We are a University in France. The IP range containing > our email relays (130.79.222.208/28) is blocked by hotmail : > > $ telnet mx1.hotmail.com 25 > Trying 104.44.194.236... > Connected to mx1.hotmail.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220 SNT004-MC10F10.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or > bulk e-mail to Microsoft's computer network is prohibited. Other > restrictions are found at > http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/anti-spam.mspx. Wed, 20 Sep 2017 > 01:40:31 -0700 > > EHLO mailhost.u-strasbg.fr > 250-SNT004-MC10F10.hotmail.com (3.21.0.283) Hello [130.79.222.211] > [...] > 250 OK > > MAIL FROM: <...@unistra.fr> > 550 SC-002 (SNT004-MC10F10) Unfortunately, messages from > 130.79.222.211 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider > since part of their network is on our block list. You can also refer your > provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors. > > > When looking in SNDS, everything seems OK: all IP address are green and > said not filtered (though this could reflect old data). > > However, the IP status says the whole range is blocked. The reason stated > is "E-mail address harvesting". > > We already submitted the Outlook deliverabilty issue form twice but we > are still blocked. > > Could this be related to the problem that occured on monday and tuesday ? > What shall we do ? > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > Jean BENOIT > Security Officer > Direction Informatique > Université de Strasbourg, France > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:56:07 +0000 > From: Udeme Ukutt <uukutt...@gmail.com> > To: David Hofstee <opentext.dhofs...@gmail.com>, James Hoddinott > <borm...@gmail.com> > Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact Cloudmark ? > Message-ID: > < > cahoqypdem5kdeutscowudw4p38545mczs34h6p-7es7fvwb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > David - I'm guessing you mean Romain, not James? ^^ > > - Udeme > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:37 AM David Hofstee <opentext.dhofs...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Hi James, > > > > Your website indicates you provide services that "just do not work" for > > email. It may be legally allowed but that does not mean your recipients > > want and expect those emails. > > > > E.g. co-registration. In my opinion, many of the companies I met that did > > that, just use it for "want to win an Ipad? Register here". This > translates > > to "spam me with your emails for a chance of happiness". So basically > these > > emails are unwanted. It is something else they are after, but not the > > email. Unsubscribing is usually a problem as well (you should be able to > > unsubscribe as easily as you subscribed; which is technically difficult > if > > you sell your list to 20 organisations). I have never seen it work even > if > > executed perfectly and fool-proof (bigger fools exist than you can > imagine). > > > > So people complain on these emails. The definition of spam. It does not > > work. Similar stuff for your other services. Be happy you are not on > > Spamhaus. Change business model while you can. > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > On 19 September 2017 at 15:32, James Hoddinott <borm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> You appear to do epending. This pretty much ends any discussion. > >> > >> On 18 September 2017 at 16:38, Romain Cambien via mailop < > >> mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Friday, Cloudmark blocked multiple IPs on our main IP bloc. > >>> I tried the reset form and multiple contact forms from their website > >>> without any response. > >>> > >>> How can I contact the support to discuss our problem ? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Romain Cambien > >>> Directeur Technique > >>> > >>> [image: WebRivage] <http://www.webrivage.com/> [image: OptinCollect] > >>> <http://www.optincollect.com/> > >>> [image: société du groupe WebRivage] <http://www.webrivage.com/> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> mailop mailing list > >>> mailop@mailop.org > >>> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mailop mailing list > >> mailop@mailop.org > >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -- > > My opinion is mine. > > _______________________________________________ > > mailop mailing list > > mailop@mailop.org > > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > -- > - Sent from my iDevice, kindly excuse any typos. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/mailop/attachments/20170920/a5e01e4d/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > ------------------------------ > > End of mailop Digest, Vol 119, Issue 35 > *************************************** > -- Thanks, Alex Alex Burch ActiveCampaign / Deliverability Lead (800) 357-0402 abu...@activecampaign.com 1 N. 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