I just spotted a strange mailop message... it had no FROM and no SUBJECT line in the message header. (not even a blank subject line in the header, just no subject line at all) If the sender has been having problems - if their system is doing stuff like that, maybe that is part of their problem. (I don't know... just speculating) Or could that have been a mailop list server malfunction? NOTE: In the content of the message, it discussed another message, and gave an example of a header. I'm NOT talking about that message being discussed - I'm talking about the actual message received from mailop.
--Rob McEwen

On 10/26/2017 12:48 PM, - wrote:
  Content preview:  On 10/24/2017 05:06 AM, Mark Foster wrote: > Hi All, > > I
     run a personal MTA but I host a few not-for-profits and such. > Recently
    one of my users reported substantial delays on inbound > emails, so I had
    a quick look... it turns out email from outlook.com > was being seriously
    hindered by Greylisting. > The retry rate on a 4xx error seems to be very
    slow (almost precisely > an hour between retry attempts) and of course, the
     source IP address > changes with each retry, so the Greylisting timers are
     always reset to > zero... clearly I don't do enough mail volume to keep the
     timers up to > a point where I know i'm getting 'clean' email. > > The only
     way I can see to reliably resolve this is to try to whitelist > the sending
     IP's (is this even practical?)Â It'd be nice of messages > from outlook.com
     were retried from the same source IP... this behavior > seems to make 
greylisting
     on relatively low-volume mail servers > something of a hassle, and across
     many years of running the MTA > configured essentially this way, this is
    the first time i've had this > sort of behavior reported. > > Cheers, > 
Mark.
     > > > > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > 
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