That's a fair point, there's no reason to not question their motives. I just personally don't see that it's a profit center for them.

Just do the math. They blocked at least 100K IPs, because 1% of these IPs sent spam in the last 7 days. If 0.5% of those 100K IPs decide to subscribe to their whitelist, that's at least 50000 CHF / 24 months. Which is I guess a rather comfortable income that largely exceeds their costs.

How do you know that's not the same situation as the PBL? Who says that it was uceprotect's decision alone to list 100K IPs?


It's what they themselves say: they changed their formula two days ago, and because of this thousands IP addresses that were not listed are now listed. See http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=12&s=0 .

Also, they seem to ignore that, while it is feasible for ISPs to eradicate spam on their network, it is impossible for server providers to do this:

That sounds a lot like apathy.  Even the banks are required to KYC.


So what? If you use the bank analogy, it would mean pestering 1000 customers because 1 customer got robbed. And then explain that they got robbed because of apathy, because they did not install an alarm.

"If big providers like DTAG and Microsoft can so effectively prevent that their customers are sending spam, why can your provider not also do so? The simple answer is: The Abuse Departements of providers NOT listed in our Level 3 are doing an excellent job, while those listed do not. If your provider really wants to stop the excessive spam coming from their ranges they would simply install some preventive measures."

Honest customers can have their WordPress website hacked.

Most don't, case studies have shown that it's apathy that causes most wordpress hacks.


That's orthogonal to the point at hand. The point is that honest customers can have their WordPress website hacked. This might indeed happen because of apathy on the part of that customer, but a server provider cannot do anything to detect customers that do not upgrade their website regularly enough. The product they sell is a bare machine in a datacenter.
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