I don't think that is true..

As a provider for hundreds of Telco's and ISP's across North America, I think we understand the challenges in both cases..

If the inbound server can detect that it is spam, it is easier for the outbound server to do so, they have better insight and more data about the behavior of the senders etc..

It is more about being afraid to adopt policies, because it might affect a paying customer (sic, since most are not paying customers in your case)

But rejecting an outbound email because it is badly formed, should be a normal course of action. And the trend will be even bigger this year to hold operators responsible for content coming out of their networks.

This isn't an old argument, from 20 years ago when the big cable companies had all the spammers on residential networks, before blocking port 25 became the norm.

But seriously, the sheer volume of obvious spam from Gmail is getting out of hand, especially when it is phishing or scam templates that have been in use for many years.

Was going to include today's sampling.. but..

PS, when is Gmail going to stop using POP for their users to access an external mailbox.. just a complaint I am passing on, as of course ANY transmission of passwords plain text should not be happening


On 2021-02-04 8:43 a.m., Luke wrote:
Preventing outbound spam on a large system is a far greater challenge than stopping inbound spam. The technical challenges are similar, but the logistical challenges of preventing outbound spam without pissing off customers is /far/ greater than the challenge of preventing inbound spam without pissing off customers.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:49 AM Michael Peddemors via mailop <mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:

    This one was almost too funny, as in it's list of To addresses, almost
    all the emails were related to addresses used to report malware.. looks
    like an infosec member might have their email compromised, and took
    advantage of their address books.. but when you see a recipient list
    with 100's of recipients, and many are not even real email addresses
    you
    wonder..

    Return-Path: <skyaffiliation2...@gmail.com
    <mailto:skyaffiliation2...@gmail.com>>
    ..
    Received: from mail-oi1-f195.google.com
    <http://mail-oi1-f195.google.com> (HELO mail-oi1-f195.google.com
    <http://mail-oi1-f195.google.com>)
    (209.85.167.195)
    ..
    To: <170+ recips>,
    product-scree...@2x.webp, product-scree...@2x.webp, video-vi...@2x.webp,
        feature-screen-experimen...@2x.webp,
    feature-screen-experimen...@2x.webp,
        feature-screen-experimen...@2x.webp,
    product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, product-illustration-...@2x.webp,
        product-illustration-...@2x.webp, scree...@2x.webp,
    screen-1-sm...@2x.webp,
        scree...@2x.webp, screen-2-sm...@2x.webp, scree...@2x.webp,
        screen-3-sm...@2x.webp, scree...@2x.webp, scree...@2x.webp,
        screen-6-sm...@2x.webp, scree...@2x.webp, screen-5-sm...@2x.webp,
    ..

    Over 1/2 of the spam folder filled with gmail spammers.



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