Len Shneyder is a great guy and part of the old guard. I trust he hasn't moved to the darkside. I am sure he is doing as much as he can but there isn't much help out there for those of us responsible for keeping bad actors off our systems.
RBLs: You've hit too many traps or exceeded some threshold - we're adding you. ESPs: We remove all unsubs, have signed up for FBLs from everyone that offers them, track bounces/complaint/abuse rates, perform spot checks daily, take every abuse complaint and research it, but I have 10K customers with new ones signing up for our service every day! Can you give me more information that will help us identify the bad actor without revealing the trap addresses or complainant? RBLs: No - You're spammers and we'll call you out on mail-ops by name - Good luck. The biggest headache I have - trying to track down bad actors or customers that are good, just doing it wrong. Want an ESPs to reduce spam? Help them! (in real-time preferably so they can shut down current queues) - Damon > Subject: Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security > advice? Wow! > Message-ID: > <caaqnkjdr8wa-taqv8nk97z9fsuq70kuhstcojin64vkvk1k...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > How is this post related to a current specific operational concern? > I'm not seeing how it's on topic. > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:52 AM Rob McEwen via mailop > <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > > > These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len > > Shneyder and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but > > - considering what is coming FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the > > right time to be giving OTHERS anti-abuse/security advice? Just... wow! I > > think they should instead consider trying to "lead by example". The world > > would certainly become a MUCH better place! > > https://martechseries.com/mts-insights/tech-bytes/len-shneyder-twilio-sendgrid/ > > > > -- > > Rob McEwen, invaluement _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
