Hi, On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 02:44:43PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > >> it basically makes it impossible to respond to the original email sender > > Nope, you just open the encapsulated email (open the .EML attachment), and > respond to that.
Going back to my anecdote that last month a poster to the North American Network Operators Group mailing list complained about the changing of subject lines "messing up" message grouping in gmail, as if Gmail's UI was the optimal/only way for email threads to be presented: also in the last couple of months someone on the UK Network Operators Forum mailing list complained that "DMARC messes up the format of list email". What I eventually established was that they were referring to this Mailman DMARC mitigation setting of encapsulating a post inside a post from the list server, when the sender has a DMARC policy of reject etc. I do not recall which of the major mailbox providers they were using for it to look "messed up" but again the issue here is that even some of the most technically adept users on the Internet today are not using email software that copes well with that. There is a big gap in the user experience and user training that I'm not sure any entity has the will and ability to plug. Myself, I appreciate the encapsulation option for the reasons you state. I understand what's going on and my mail software copes with it¹. But I don't find it usable in general at this time. Thanks, Andy ¹ Though I do use "notmuch" quite extensively and haven't yet found a good way to have it index such emails: from notmuch's point of view it only records the header keywords of the outer email container, with the inner [arts only being matchable by body text search. In simple words: $ notmuch search 'from:joe.blo...@example.com' will not match list mail from joe.blo...@example.com that's been encapsulated in such a fashion. -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
