This is a log snippet that may be helpful. 

Seems like Spamhaus and invaluement are starting to deal with it. The 
74.75.228.35 address in this example is a Charter Communications IP. 

If it's really true (@Michael?) that no host with "googleusercontent" should be 
touching our MTAs, then perhaps the more efficient route would be to create a 
filter for Fail2Ban to just ban the IPs? 

zimbra@mb42:~$ grep googleusercontent.com /var/log/zimbra.log 
Sep 19 00:52:43 my postfix/postscreen[2183487]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
[34.78.118.67]:36576: 550 5.7.1 Service unavailable; client [34.78.118.67] 
blocked using <mykey>.zen.dq.spamhaus.net; 
from=<[email protected]>, to=<redacted.com>, 
proto=ESMTP, helo=<[10.88.0.3]> 
Sep 19 11:09:32 my postfix/submission/smtpd[4066485 connect from 
74.75.228.35.bc.googleusercontent.com[35.228.75.74] 
Sep 19 11:09:32 my postfix/submission/smtpd[4066485 Anonymous TLS connection 
established from 74.75.228.35.bc.googleusercontent.com[35.228.75.74]: TLSv1.3 
with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 
Sep 19 11:09:32 my postfix/submission/smtpd[4066485 lost connection after 
STARTTLS from 74.75.228.35.bc.googleusercontent.com[35.228.75.74] 
Sep 19 11:09:32 my postfix/submission/smtpd[4066485 disconnect from 
74.75.228.35.bc.googleusercontent.com[35.228.75.74] ehlo=1 starttls=1 
commands=2 

Regards, 
Mark 

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| From: "Scott Q. via mailop" <[email protected]>
| To: "Chris" <[email protected]>, "Michael Peddemors"
| <[email protected]>
| Cc: [email protected]
| Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 9:59:20 PM
| Subject: Re: [mailop] Google Cloud Asia Spam

| Would you guys mind sharing the blocks you are throttling / blocking ?

| What we did for now is simply looking up the PTR for any 34/8 and 35/8
| connecting IP and if it ends with googleusercontent.com give it some spam
| points.

| Thanks!

| Scott

| On Thursday, 18/09/2025 at 16:06 Chris via mailop wrote:
|| On 2025-09-18 08:34, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:
|| > *.googleusercontent.com should not only not be sending email (either change
|| > PTR,
|| > or use a relay) so you can go beyond scoring, and simply reject.

|| > Also, given the history of abuse and/or compromises, we also recommend that
|| > you do
|| > NOT allow email authentication from those IPs, except as permitted in an
|| > allow
|| > .acl.

|| > Make sense?

|| I concur.
|| We've been dropping packets originating from them without so much as an ACK
|| for some 5yrs.
|| Without *any* repercussions. Just reject. Your life will be much better for
|| it. :)


|| > On 2025-09-16 07:58, Scott Q. via mailop wrote:
|| >> Sorry for reviving an older thread, we are still battling this Google spam
|| >> issue.

|| >> Anyone else scoring e-mails directly received from IPs with a PTR of
|| >> *.googleusercontent.com ? Any downside to doing this ?

|| >> Gmail/Workspace doesn't use that PTR but are there legitimate Google
|| >> services that do ?

|| >> Thanks!
|| >> Scott

|| >> On Thursday, 04/09/2025 at 16:21 Alex Burch wrote:

|| >> They might have legacy accounts where port 25 is unblocked. I think
|| >> Infusionsoft/Keap had their IPs hosted at GCP at one point and they
|| >> had the port 25 block lifted to send with them.
|| >> Thanks,
|| >> Alex


|| >> --

|| >> Alexander Burch
|| >> ActiveCampaign / Senior Deliverability Engineer
||>> [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ]
|| >> <mailto:[email protected]>
|| >> 1 North Dearborn St Suite 500, Chicago IL, 60602
||>> < [ https://www.facebook.com/activecampaign |
|| >> https://www.facebook.com/activecampaign ] >
||>> < [ http://www.twitter.com/activecampaign |
|| >> http://www.twitter.com/activecampaign ] >
||>> < [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/activecampaign-inc |
|| >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/activecampaign-inc ] ->
||>> < [ https://plus.google.com/107063868317743606466 |
|| >> https://plus.google.com/107063868317743606466 ] >


||>> < [ https://www.activecampaign.com/sig/?u=aburch&c=1 |
|| >> https://www.activecampaign.com/sig/?u=aburch&c=1 ] >

|| >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:12 AM Scott Q. via mailop
||>> < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>
|| >> wrote:

|| >> I get that, but the question is more whether GCP blocks outbound
|| >> port 25 or not.

|| >> Their docs say they are blocking it:
||>> [ https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail |
|| >> https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail ]
||>> < [ https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail |
|| >> https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail ] >

|| >> yet we see evidence to the contrary. Surely it's a configuration
|| >> mistake somewhere (?).

|| >> Maybe someone from Google can shed some light on this.

|| >> Thanks!

|| >> On Thursday, 04/09/2025 at 11:25 Michael Peddemors via mailop
|| >> wrote:

|| >> Careful.. the list admins don't like us using this list to
|| >> complain
|| >> about spam, but yeah..

|| >> Anything with a PTR of 1.132.64.34.bc.googleusercontent.com
||>> < [ http://1.132.64.34.bc.googleusercontent.com/ |
|| >> http://1.132.64.34.bc.googleusercontent.com ] >. is suspect,
|| >> and should be rejected (port 25) ...

|| >> Standard ruleset for a couple of years.. but even more
|| >> important, is the
|| >> number of IPs in those ranges used in email hacking, and BEC
|| >> Compromise
|| >> attacks.

|| >> You might even like to block attempts to other ports by
|| >> default, and
|| >> create a 'permitted' acl for IPs in those ranges for
|| >> legitimate use.

|| >> On 2025-09-04 07:55, Scott Q. via mailop wrote:
|| >> > Anyone else seeing an uptick lately of Spam e-mails
|| >> originating from
|| >> > these ranges ?

|| >> > 34.64.132.0/22 < [ http://34.64.132.0/22 | http://34.64.132.0/22 ] >
|| >> > 35.240.0.0/13 < [ http://35.240.0.0/13 | http://35.240.0.0/13 ] >

|| >> > Mostly e-mails with: Content-Type: text/plain;
|| >> charset="iso-2022-jp"

|| >> > What's interesting is that GCP has outbound port 25
|| >> blocked by default
|| >> > yet these hosts are able to do direct-to-mx deliveries.

|| >> > If anyone from Google is reading this - can you have a look
|| >> ?

|| >> > Thanks!
|| >> > Scott


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