On Mon 13/Oct/2025 07:29:50 +0200 Marco Moock wrote:
On 13.10.2025 14:17 Viktor Dukhovni via mailop <[email protected]> wrote:

Therefore, in the context of MTA-to-MTA (port 25) email relayng, a client certificate could perhaps be used as a lookup key for client reputation, that could be more robust than an IP address. And the DANCE working group client id draft:

For which use case?

A spammer might just get various certificates for different host names via letsencrypt.


A useful use case would be to certify when a domain/ organization began operations. RDAP records are difficult to obtain for domain names, and IP numbers don't have an active-from field.

Certificates have start and end date. However, the not-before date is moved forward each time the certificate is renewed. It would be helpful to know how long a domain has been certified, because the reputation of recently published domains is not meaningful.


Best
Ale
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