OK, this is really embarrassing, but I figured it out on my own!  Sorry for
all the trouble, guys!  It was a stupid me moment.
Anyway, for those of you who use VST Host, this might help reduce latency
for you.  In the wave dialogue in the devices menu, make sure the input port
is set to no wave.  This will reduce latency by almost half a beat!  I'm not
kidding!  Once I turned that off, everything was in sync again.
Seth

-----Original Message-----
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Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:47 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Problems with VST Host and QWS


Well it can function without a driver as most usb cards  with usb can, 
but with its drivers it has a better access to its effects.
it has alchahol for older games, 3d tones and other effects. its 60 dollars
and was the only card sold in the shops though there is a 
30 dollar version which has less effects, a 15 dollar version with even 
less.
There are versions up to 200-300 dollars but I think I had to order 
those in, the 60 dollar one I was told was the most popular gaming card 
sold in my local computer shop.
There are some caviats though.
1. the source player and bits of the installers are not accessable so 
you may need sighted help for those the source player is not useable 
nore is the main audio control panel for the card.
There is a secondary panel with some functions to the effects and such 
and that works.
alchahol works well though I havn't used that that much.
The updater is a bit inaccessable to get going to.
The registration is inaccessable but as long as you have the serial 
number it can be done online and if you have sighted help, the first 
time to make your creative online account as long as you know where the 
fields are you can login and its good.
The card is quite sensitive to, I would recomend it that if you use it 
you plug it in to a usb extention cable and not a hub, if you do plug it 
into a hub do not connect cooling desks/ fans/ other types of things 
like this as you will pick up their grounding noise from the card. Also
while connected don't knock the card or fiddle with it as it will 
pick up noise its about probably its ownly problem.
It will not work for a lot of games, for most modern games my realtech 
card I have works.
However connect a pair of good 5.1 surround speakers or 2.1 stereo and 
subs to the card, adjust the effects and your music etc will play nicely.
even headphones and a good mic it will record just fine The effects will not
work well with speech if they are set wrongly and 
in fact its better with effects off or speech on another card. Whithout any
effects on the card can have a plasticy/ electronic robot 
feel when using a screen reader as there is no echo and its just plastic.
Even then its still a good card, though I must admit that with all the 
issues mentioned I don't use it as much as I thought I would for general 
music use its a really good card and for recording I don't know. I'd
personally get something like the logitech external desktop usb 
microphone  or well if you have a good mic plug it in the card and see 
but keep it away from power bricks, fans and other things directly 
connected to the hub its on and you should be ok.
There is also because of being usb a bit of delay between it and the 
box, and it may take a bit of time when connected for it to switch. At times
windows may not switch back to the default card. making the sb card the
default may have it switch back and I havn't had 
any real issues you shouldn't need to do anything however you may need 
sighted help to get sound back or manually switch it witth the card in.



On 6/09/2015 5:28 a.m., Seth Lowman wrote:
> Is this a driver, or actually the sound card?  Also, how much did it 
> cost?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Shaun Everiss
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 10:14 PM
> To: QWS list
> Subject: Re: QWS List Problems with VST Host and QWS
>
>
> to be honest if you want a mid range consumer card, the sb play by 
> creative is quite good at least for playback its not a pro card but 
> its good enough for standard audio, sadly it has no synth. Thank god 
> synth font.
>
>
>
> On 5/09/2015 4:49 p.m., Suman Bhokray wrote:
>> hi the problem is asio will not work well with realtek soundcard. to 
>> make it work you got to turnoff windows sounds and screenreader on 
>> the realtek sound card which you are using with VSThost. wishes Suman 
>> Bhokray
>>
>> On 9/5/2015 9:18 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>>> I've tried Asio in the past, but It doesn't seem to work well with 
>>> the Realtech soundcards.  That is, I can't ever get anything to play 
>>> out of it. If you use Realtech and could help me get Asio running on 
>>> my computer, then maybe that would fix VST Host.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Andre Louis
>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 10:05 AM
>>> To: QWS list
>>> Subject: Re: QWS List Problems with VST Host and QWS
>>>
>>>
>>> None at all. as I don't use windows 8, there's not a lot I can 
>>> personally offer. The only thing I can suggest is probably what 
>>> you've tried already and the most obvious, that being Asio4All.
>>> It may help, but it's quite picky about what sound cards it works
>>> with. PS.
>>> Proteus, not Prodeus...
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Seth Lowman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: QWS List Problems with VST Host and QWS
>>>
>>>
>>> So I'm using midi yoke with VST Host.  The problem is, however, that 
>>> my VST's are horribly latent when I play them through QWS.  I turned 
>>> the buffer size down to 70 samples in VST Host, but it's still more 
>>> latent than Coolsoft or Prodeus VX.  I'm confused as to why this is. 
>>> I made sure and disabled all of the midi yoke in ports in QWS. also, 
>>> encase this helps, VST Host doesn't start up where I leave it the 
>>> last time I used it.  Is there anything I'm Missing?  It works fine 
>>> on my windows 7 computer, but not on my
>>> windows 8 laptop. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Seth
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