At 09:22 a.m. 4/25/98 -0500, Alice Conrad O'Briain wrote:
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Simon Cauchi wrote
>>I once knew a learned autodidact who habitually spoke of 'Kikero'.

And Alice wrote:

>Either spelling is viable and the kikero pronunciation comes from the Roman
>adoption of the greek letter kappa so when reading classical  latin witht
>he correct pronunctiation rather than as church latin all c's such as in
>Cicero are said as kappa's and likewise all v's are w's

So if we write "Vergil" we should really say Wehr - gill.  In the old film
"Goodby, Mr. Chips" this question arises, and the venerable teacher gently
lambastes those who insist on 'kikero."  Better, he says, to focus on the
text than force a pronunciation that seems affected and unnatural.  Kids,
after all, are more interested in story than in matters only a linguist
could love.

BTW, is there any sort of discussion list out there for Cicero?  

Also, just as the discussion of CQ was going on I received a complimentary
copy of a publication called "Copy Editor," which discusses current usage
of English.  The issue I have features, inter alia, a dictionary update by
a senior editor at Random House, a rundown of Web sites that give wrong
advice on writing, and the one most classically concerned:  "Kevorkian's
coinage," which notes the distinction between "euthanasia" and "assisted
suicide," and records a new term for the last: "patholysis."  URL:  

http://www.copyeditor.com

I certainly enjoy this list even though I don't contribute.  I am
perpetually studying either something Latin or Greek, though I often branch
out into Old or Middle English, French, Italian.  I've chipped away at
Hebrew for years, but at present am trying to learn to speak everyday
colloquial Spanish, as I work with a Spanish-language directory.  Haven't
yet run into anyone called "ver- HI -lio!"

Nancy Charlton
Portland OR

Dulce ridentem, dulce loquentem


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