The standard bibliography of Thomas Jefferson's books is the five-volume Catalogue of the library of Thomas Jefferson, compiled with annotations by E. Millicent Sowerby. A reprint edition was published at Charlottesville: University Press of Virginia, 1983. The entries give a full descriptive bibliography of Jefferson's copies of Virgil (he owned editions in Latin, English, Italian and French). It may or may not indicate their present locations.
As for "significant quotations" on Virgil and the classics, you might begin with Douglas L. Wilson's edition of Jefferson's Literary Commonplace Book (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1989). Wilson notes that Jefferson regarded as his favorite poet in Latin, and one assimilated early in life. The Georgics had a profound effect on Jefferson's agrarian visions of America as a nation of self-sufficient farmers. Rodger Friedman Rare Book Studio One Mystic Circle Tuxedo, NY 10987 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bibliocity.com/search/rf 914 351 5067 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 8:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VIRGIL Digest V1 #5 VIRGIL Digest Tuesday, 15 September 1998 Volume 01 : Number 005 Re: VIRGIL: Looking for info on the language of women in Aeneid Jefferson's Virgil RE: VIRGIL: illustrations (bibliography) Re: VIRGIL: alternatives to Galinsky, Augustan Culture Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil Re: Re: VIRGIL: Gary Wills' Article Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil Re: VIRGIL: Re: Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil Re: VIRGIL: Re: no commercials Re: VIRGIL: alternatives to Galinsky, Augustan Culture ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:13:02 +0000 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Looking for info on the language of women in Aeneid Take a look at Star's article: 'Explaining Dido to Your Son: Tiberius Claudius Donatus on Vergil's Dido,' CJ 87 (1991), 25-34. H. Conrad-O'Briain ------------------------------ From: Raymond Cormier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:54:44 -0400 Subject: Jefferson's Virgil Attempting to locate the whereabouts of Thomas Jefferson's copy of Virgil. Does anyone on the list have any ideas on this? I'd also appreciate any significant quotations Jefferson may have bequeathed us on the subject of Virgil or on the Classics. Thanks. R. Cormier, Longwood College ------------------------------ From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:07:23 -0500 Subject: RE: VIRGIL: illustrations (bibliography) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:37:38 +0200 From: Susanne Hafner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On the beautifully illustrated manuscript of the Middle High German Eneasroman by Heinrich von Veldeke, see Nikolaus Henkel und Andreas Fingernagel. Heinrich von Veldeke, Eneas-Roman. Vollfaksimile des Ms.germ.fol. 282 der Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin. Wiesbaden: Dr. Ludwig Reichert Verlag, 1992: 1-20. [contains detailed introduction, including codicological and art historical description] Henkel, Nikolaus. "Bildtexte. Die Spruchb=E4nder in der Berliner Handschrift von Heinrichs von Veldeke Eneasroman." In: Poesis et Pictura. Studien zum Verh=E4ltnis von Text und Bild in Handschriften und alten Drucken. Festschrift f=FCr Dieter Wuttke zum 60. Geburtstag. Hg. von Stephan =46=FCssel und Joachim Knape. Baden-Baden: Valentin Koerner, 1989: 1-47. both publications with exhaustive bibliography Susanne Hafner Universitaet Hamburg ------------------------------ From: RANDI C ELDEVIK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:43:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: VIRGIL: alternatives to Galinsky, Augustan Culture By conservative, I take it you mean Galinsky's position that Augustus's takeover was basically a Good Thing, as opposed to Syme's linkage of Augustus's rise to power with the way Hitler and other '30's dictators came to power? Or do you mean conservative in some other sense? Also, I don't know what kind of course you have in mind, but for a narrative history of the early empire, why not have students read something straight from the horse's mouth, such as Tacitus's _Histories_ and _Annals_? Tacitus's dissatisfaction with Augustus certainly offsets the Galinsky perspective. Randi Eldevik Oklahoma State University On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, David Wilson-Okamura wrote: > I have been reading, enjoying, and learning from Karl Galinsky's Augustan > Culture a great deal, but am aware that in the classroom it needs something > to offset it; something as good as, but not as conservative as Galinsky. > Preferably something that gives a narrative history of the early empire as > well. Galinsky himself suggests Syme for this. Wells also seems a likely > candidate, though not necessarily a good counter to Galinsky. Suggestions? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > David Wilson-Okamura http://www.virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of Chicago Online Virgil discussion, bibliography & links > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub > ------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:53:54 +0000 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil Have you tried Monticello and the Library of Congress? I rather suspect that it would still be at Monticello, although he sold most of his library to Congress. Can anyone recall the article on Jefferson and Homer which was published in the last year or two - there might be some leads there - also you might look at Meyer Reinhold's Vergil in the American Experience in Vergil at Two Thousand, ed. John Bernard, AMS Press New York, 1986 ISBN 0-404-62503-7. It may be noted that Reinhold suggests that the Aeneid was not particularly popular during the early American republic - he quotes Barlow and Beresford, while Fisher Ames defended both Homer and Vergil HCOB ------------------------------ From: "Robert Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:28:48 -0600 Subject: Re: An interesting site that has links to lit and language resources (as well = as some other bizarre stuff) is: http://www.partyharvey.com >>> "Shannon Merlino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/07 6:48 PM >>> To whom it may concern: As a junior taking AP Latin in high school, I am required to research=20 Virgil and translate the Aeneid. I am also interested in Italian, so I=20 am looking for the URL's for some Italian-language sites on Virgil. I=20 looked on your site but couldn't find any. If possible, could you=20 please forward any URL's you might know of to me? Thank you for your=20 time and effort. Sincerely, Shannon Merlino ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com=20 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub ------------------------------ From: "Robert Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:31:32 -0600 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Gary Wills' Article This same quote you mention appears in the novel The Adventures of Captain = Harvey (Shield publishers 1997) and Virgil and Dante are used throughout = the work. Check out the related site:=20 http://www.partyharvey.com >>> JAMES C Wiersum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/08 5:34 PM >>> I was sitting in a Seattle U-District coffee shop and browsed through the Seattle Post-Intelligencer for this Tuesday -- Sept. 8, 1998. I turned to the editorial section. There of all things was an analysis of the Clinton scandal using a quotation of book six from Virgil's Aeneid. It was by Gary Wills who --if I recall rightly -- was a Latin scholar before turning political commentator. Now the last thing I want to do is get into a political discussion about Clinton on this list but I think the Wills article shows how relevant the classics can be -- how relevant Virgil is! The quote he used as "commentary" was Book Six, Line 126ff.: "easy is the descent to Avernus; the door of dark Dis stands open day and night. But to retrace your steps and come out to the air above, that is work, that is labor!" (the Guinagh translation). Wills also used Virgil's journey to Hell to comment on the relationship between public and private. One goes "within" in order to come out and share, for the common good, what one has learned. The modern day division of public and private is, according to Wills, a modern day curse. For the life of me I can't recall the title of Wills' article. I had to leave it and run. I'll go to the local library and make a copy though. Any way, get it and read it; it should be in most of the national newspapers this week. James C. Wiersum=20 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com=20 Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub ------------------------------ From: Bob Kaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:50:56 +0100 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil At 4:53 PM +0000 9/14/98, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Have you tried Monticello and the Library of Congress? >I rather suspect that it would still be at Monticello, although he sold >most of his library to Congress. A couple of years ago I saw Jefferson's text of Horace, which was in a private dealer's hands. My best guess is that his Vergil, if it survives at all, has likewise been dispersed, given that (as HCOB says) he sold most of his library. ------------------------------ From: "Shannon Merlino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:31:36 EDT Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Re: To Whom it May Concern: Thank you for the link. I found it quite useful (albeit bizzare) for my research. As a high-school junior taking a college-level Latin course, I often find it difficult to find links that satisfy my needs. Sincerely, Shannon Merlino ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Gregory Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:40:30 -0600 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Jefferson's Virgil > I'd also appreciate any significant >quotations Jefferson may have bequeathed >us on the subject of Virgil or on the Classics. > Thanks. > R. Cormier, Longwood College Jefferson I can't help with, but here's a really first-rate one from John Adams's autobiography: "I got my Lessons regularly, and performed my recitations without Censure. Mathematicks and Natural Phylosophy attracted the most of my Attention, which I have since regretted, because I was destined to a Course of Life, in which these Sciences have been of little Use, and the Classicks would have been of great Importance." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gregory Hays Dept. of Classics, University of Illinois 4072 Foreign Languages Building 707 S. Mathews, Urbana, IL 61801 USA "Est quaedam etiam nesciendi ars et scientia" Gottfried Hermann (1772-1848) ------------------------------ From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Re: Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:05:11 -0400 From: Alfonso Georeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:28 AM 9/14/98 -0600, you wrote: >An interesting site that has links to lit and language resources (as well as some other bizarre stuff) is: > >http://www.partyharvey.com > > >>>> "Shannon Merlino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/07 6:48 PM >>> >To whom it may concern: > As a junior taking AP Latin in high school, I am required to research >Virgil and translate the Aeneid. I am also interested in Italian, so I >am looking for the URL's for some Italian-language sites on Virgil. I >looked on your site but couldn't find any. If possible, could you >please forward any URL's you might know of to me? Thank you for your >time and effort. > Sincerely, > Shannon Merlino > Mr. "Jones": I am appalled that you would refer a high school junior to such a website as "Partyharvey." The young asked for linguistic information, not referrals for the purchase of aphrodisiacs, "pleasure enhancers," Kama Sutra information, etc. If there is such an offense as impairing the morals of a minor via e-mail, you are surely guilty thereof. The site is, plainly and simply, pornographic. I invite the webmaster to visit the site himself and take whatever action seems necessary. Alfonso Georeno ------------------------------ From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:58:14 -0500 Subject: no commercials At 03:01 PM 9/14/98 -0600, Alfonso Georeno wrote: >Mr. "Jones": > >I am appalled that you would refer a high school junior to such a website >as "Partyharvey." The young asked for linguistic information, not referrals >for the purchase of aphrodisiacs, "pleasure enhancers," Kama Sutra >information, etc. If there is such an offense as impairing the morals of a >minor via e-mail, you are surely guilty thereof. The site is, plainly and >simply, pornographic. > >I invite the webmaster to visit the site himself and take whatever action >seems necessary. I don't want to start a thread on this topic. Let me just remind subscribers that there are NO COMMERCIALS on Mantovano, for Captain Billy's Whizbang or for anything else. Enough said. David Wilson-Okamura Listowner, Mantovano P.S. By commercials, I do not mean notices of academic publications (since very few of these are actually commercial ventures). - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David Wilson-Okamura http://www.virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Chicago Online Virgil discussion, bibliography & links - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:36:56 -0500 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: alternatives to Galinsky, Augustan Culture At 09:43 AM 9/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >By conservative, I take it you mean Galinsky's position that Augustus's >takeover was basically a Good Thing, as opposed to Syme's linkage of >Augustus's rise to power with the way Hitler and other '30's dictators >came to power? Or do you mean conservative in some other sense? No, that's about what I meant, though after thinking about it for a few days, I probably ought to have picked an adjective that is subject to less variation over time and distance. > Also, I don't know what kind of course you have in mind, but for a >narrative history of the early empire, why not have students read >something straight from the horse's mouth, such as Tacitus's _Histories_ >and _Annals_? Tacitus's dissatisfaction with Augustus certainly offsets >the Galinsky perspective. Most of the primary sources are in fact available online now at the Ancient History Sourcebook <http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html>, a phenomenal resource I learned about this evening from N. S. Gill's Ancient History newsletter <http://ancienthistory.miningco.com/msub19.htm>. Having said that, I'm still looking for a more synoptic approach to the period. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David Wilson-Okamura http://www.virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Chicago Online Virgil discussion, bibliography & links - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of VIRGIL Digest V1 #5 ************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano-digest" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). Or go to http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. 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