>Can someone confirm or deny that "ars est celere artem" is from Ovid's "Art of >Love".
It's "celare". I haven't got Ovid's "Art of Love" to hand, but the Oxford Dictionary of English Proverbs cites the Latin merely as "L.", with no reference to a literary source, and so I suspect it's merely proverbial. Similarly a densely annotated edition of Sidney's Apology for Poetry, in which references to original sources are given for practically all the classical quotations and allusions, has no note for the passage that goes "using art to show art, and not to hide art, as ... he [an orator] should do". If I remember rightly, Ovid does say something about the need for a seducer to conceal his intentions at the start of a seduction, but even if he does use those very words, how do you know he wasn't simply repeating a well-known proverb? Simon Cauchi, Freelance Editor and Indexer Hamilton, New Zealand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub