Yes, Euander's speech de originibus Latii. This part has also some of the rare and heavy sounding spondiacus-lines: 8,341 and (so near!) 345 - unbreakable old names at the end of those lines.
Some antiquity, maybe Ennius or some ritual texts of old Latium: alliterations (typical for ritual texts, of course for Ennius also) in its gravity and the god's names at the end of the speech make it sound like a prayer. "Ennius"-like alliteration-verses: 8,317 f; 325; 326; 333; 334 (and some more). Are there or somewhere else (in the "rest" of the epos) any lines with only three words? In the great Parcival-epos of Wolfram von Eschenbach there are two lines with only ONE word, singing the melody of the name of the Parzival's love: "Condwīrāmūrs" (copound of two words: Condwīr-āmūrs) in book 4, chapter 187, verse 21 and again in book 6, chapter 283, verse 7 (in both cases with the following rhyme "... beā cūrs", beau-corps, beautiful body). The four syllabes of the name-melody have the four accents of the four-accent-line of this epic verse (what of course is impossible in a daktylic hexameter). grusz, hansz David Wilson-Okamura schrieb: > << message forwarded by listowner, David Wilson-Okamura >> > > From: "Tim Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 21:48:29 +0000 > > I have been re-reading Aeneid 8.306-341 and was struck by the 6 > instances of 5-word hexameters contained within this passage alone. > Seeing that I could not entirely pin down quite why these instances > seemed significant to me, I wondered whether anyone on the list had any > thoughts on the significance (or otherwise) of the number of words that > appear in any one line of Virgil? > > I THINK my attention to the 5-word hexameters in this passage was > probably spurred by a dim recollection of Eclogue 2.24: > > AMPHION DIRCAEUS IN ACTAEO ARACYNTHO > > Clausen declares this to be "a verse of the most precious Alexandrian > sort." By this is he pointing solely to the learned allusions and the > distintive rhythm of "Actaeo Aracyntho" - or do the number of words in > the line have any part to play in this assessment? > > There is another notable line in the Eclogues (5.73): > > SALTANTIS SATYROS IMITABITUR ALPHESIBOEUS. > > Clausen remarks on this line that 4 word hexameters are rare in Virgil (he > cites 7 other examples). So I suppose the more general question becomes: > when does the number of words in a line become significant? > > > Anyway, back to 5-word hexameters and the particular passage I had in mind, > Aeneid 8.306-341. I can see that a line with 5 words in it can attain a > certain symmetry (esp. in a "Golden Line"). As for instance in: > > 8.334: FORTUNA OMNIPOTENS ET INELUCTABILE FATUM > > and (esp if we read the variant "Romano" rather than "Romani") > > 8.338: ET CARMENTALEM ROMANO NOMINE PORTAM > > and 8.341: AENEADAS MAGNOS ET NOBILE PALLANTEUM > > But is there any greater significance than the patterning of words here? > And how about the other examples that do not display so obvious an ordering: > > 8.309: INGREDIENS UARIOQUE UIAM SERMONE LEUABAT. > > 8.312: EXQUIRITQUE AUDITQUE UIRUM MONIMENTA PRIORUM. > > 8.322: COMPOSUIT LEGESQUE DEDIT, LATIUMQUE UOCARI. > > > I have to admit that my access to the usual reference books is rather > limited at the moment, so I must apologise if some of these questions could > readily be answered elsewhere. However, if this query sets off a more > general discussion about Virgil's use of metre then it would have been worth > it for that alone. > > Many thanks > > Tim Saunders > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub Hans Zimmermann http://home.t-online.de/home/hanumans/hansz.htm Latein/Griechisch und Ethik/Philosophie auf dem Sächsischen Schulserver http://marvin.sn.schule.de/~latein/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
