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I would agree with Francis. It is quite common for a scale bar to read to the 
right of zero in units of, say, ten. Then to the left of zero will be a ten 
space exactly equal in length to the ten space to the right, but calibrated in 
units of one. Hence if you wish to find exactly 14 miles one would make a tick 
on a piece of paper laid next to the scale at the ten mile mark to the right 
and a similar tick four units (miles) to the left of zero. You now have a 
measuring device you can lay on the map to determine exactly 14 miles. The 
units are immaterial, they could be miles, kilometers, leagues, whatever, the 
process is unitless. 

Bill Warren, who plays with maps at the Huntington Library

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Subject: Re: [MapHist] Bar Scale Data ?

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Very good, Francis, It is just whst I too suspected but, a great BUT, Kin Edwin 
wrote:  "This interval to the left of 0 is also the same distance as those 
intervals on the right side of the 0."
This description doesn't apply to your (my) hypothesis.
May Kim send us an image?
vladimiro


Il giorno 25/ago/09, alle ore 20:00, Francis Herbert ha scritto:

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> I suspect that you are describing a fairly common feature of many
> graphic map scale-bars in whatever measures. The extending of the bar to
> the left of the '0' is usually made to supply more detailed
> marked/ticked sub-divisions to those fewer and general ticked scale-bar
> divisions to the right (and/or vice-versa). Thus, if the left-hand
> extension is in individual unit ticks of 1 (up to 10) miles it
> facilitates the calculation of 'abnormal' mileage distances - such as
> even-numbered 12 or 16 miles - when combined by reading off the
> right-hand generalized distances (if, e.g., they are multiples of
> odd-numbered 5-mile unit ticks). Not so easy to explain over the
> internet; but find a text book or manual on map-reading - or even Ed
> Redmond . . .:)
> 
> Francis Herbert (former curator of maps somewhere)
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Kim H. Edwin
> Sent: 25 August 2009 17:48
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> Subject: [MapHist] Bar Scale Data ?
> 
> Dear Mapsters,
> 
> While working on some Pictorial Maps, I found a couple from the 1940's
> which have bar scales extended left of the traditional 0 distance. This
> interval to the left of 0 is also the same distance as those intervals
> on the right side of the 0.
> 
> Would someone please let me know what this is called and why it is done?
> 
> Kim Edwin, Library Technician
> Library of Congress, Geography & Map Division
> 202-707-6277
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