the best way i was able to explain the ease-of-use factor of .net to a colleague coming from ASP is that it's very much like using Access and VBA. i've been WRITING forms and controls in notepad for ages in ASP, but in Access i'd be a nutbag to do that.
granted it's more involved than that, but from an ASP perspective a lot of my personal time is free'd up by not having to futz about writing controls and forms. frankly, more beer drinking time is always a bonus. -----Original Message----- From: SCISOFT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MI-L Cracking .NET Assemblies (was Dot NET and the Future of MapInfo App... Jon I think when it comes to the actual doing of it, you'll wonder why you never jumped into .NET or the yet-to-be-seen "MapBasicNET language" long before you did. It's a pleasure to use (much nicer than FoxPro, BTW). This/these .NETtish threads have been amusing pre-holiday reading, from everyone. Ignorance is bliss, they say. Sure, decompiling .NET "code" with Lutz Roeder's Reflector is easy - but so is using the dotObfuscator (Community Edition, supplied with VS or downloadable for free), if you want to / need to obscure what you have written. As someone pointed out, MB decompilers are available (I don't know where, but it's a reasonable guess that they would be). It's all good fun. Ian Thomas GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 11:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MI-L Cracking .NET Assemblies (was Dot NET and the Future of > MapInfo App... > > I don't see why anyone would want to by an Obfuscation package when they > can > hire me. > I can't even read my own code. > > On a more serious note, everyone knows there is big money in security, > whether it be Homeland or Software, or even Social. When it comes to the > software > side there are going to be a lot of people scrambling with DOT NET to > make it > secure and to protect their intellectual properties. > > I had read somewhere (Maximum PC) that DOT NET and C# was more secure than > C++. > It stated there were fewer weaknesses with the code and compiler, however > it > seems that the converse is true if you are using the MSIL. > > The Managed and Unmanaged Extensions using C++ seems to be a real pain in > the Nether Regions. (My apologies to the Dutch). I am not real sure if I > truly > like any of the solutions being offered. > > I have written Mapbasic code for a long time, and while I have created > anything earthshaking. > (Well actually I have, since I write code for the Geophysical Exploration > Industry) > I have made a decent living with Mapinfo/Mapbasic > > The DOT NET coding scheme in Visual Basic and Visual C# will create many > more lines of code than what we are accustomed to with Mapbasic. > > I have written some Visual Basic Script for another GIS package and > compared > it to what I have written in Mapbasic for the same functionality. I found > the Visual Basic Script to be substantially larger, more commands, > declarations, words what have you. > > And while the Drag and Drop programming of Visual Studio DOT NET can be > very > appealing > I for one prefer to do my own typing. > > I also come from a Visual Foxpro background and have found it to be very > easy to code in. > Creating forms etc is very simple, and creating the code behind those > forms > and the buttons, listboxes and other events is very straightforward. You > don't > see all of the surrounding code as you do in Visual Studio which takes > you > to the entry point for the event on the form. > > Maybe I am a dinosaur, but sometimes over-simplification leads to > confusion. > In the good old days the programs we wrote and ran were procedural, and we > needed more capability than that. Then Event driven programs with a user > interface were introduced and it was a good thing. The problem is that > procedures > are being ignored as well as methodology. > I write code that is full of holes, but I know where they are and how to > deal with them and fortunately I haven't been kicked off the planet for > some of > the things that I have written. > With the new development environments (Studio's) more people are going > create even sloppier code than I do and then when something goes wrong > they won't > know where to look because they bought an Obfuscator to protect their > intellectual property. > > This whole thing just gave me a Migraine. > > Sorry for the rant, well actually I am not sorry. > > Fellow Listers, > Have a Happy Holidays > > Jon Gramm --------------------------------------------------------------------- List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14629 --------------------------------------------------------------------- List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14630
