Mat Elfstrőm's wish list specifies two items I think are essential. Routing capabilities and adding MapBasic to the core product. I think the Universal Translator should be updated and provisions made to allow import and export of ESRI's new geodatabase file format.
Chuck Lockwood -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:01 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: MapInfo-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 64 Send MapInfo-L mailing list submissions to mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MapInfo-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: feature wish list (Mats Elfstr?m) 2. Re: feature wish list (Richard Greenwood) 3. Re: feature wish list (Data Directions) 4. [Spam] Google Earth (Tim Rideout) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:12:55 +0200 From: Mats Elfstr?m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [MI-L] feature wish list To: "'Bill Thoen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All! Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if MapInfo Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project Grande has made its grand exit). I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add cosmetic changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue upgrading. Else I fear some users will look at alternative platforms. 1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the sdk into MapBasic). 2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product. 3 Add MapBasic to the core product. By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful value on their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new users at the same time. Their latest effort, Envinsa, seems to be very US centric as many other additions have been lately. Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I am not sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5. My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should be international and not confined to the American market. 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From: "Bill Thoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MI-L] feature wish list Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:23:24 +0200 Size: 2054 Url: http://www.directionsmag.com/pipermail/mapinfo-l/attachments/20061022/1db237 6a/attachment-0001.eml ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:21:53 -0600 From: "Richard Greenwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MI-L] feature wish list To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/21/06, Mats Elfstrvm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All! > > Adding to the wish list, which I feel is of utmost importance if > MapInfo Corp really wants to enhance the next release (if Project > Grande has made its grand exit). > I think there are those who are fed up with upgrades which only add > cosmetic changes. They really must make it worthwhile to continue > upgrading. Else I fear some users will look at alternative platforms. > > 1 Incorporate Vertical Mapper in the core product MapInfo Pro (and the > sdk into MapBasic). > 2 Add routing capabilities (route mapper or something) to the core product. > 3 Add MapBasic to the core product. > > By doing this, Mi Corp would give upgrading users some real and useful > value on their chosen platform, and maybe even gain one or two new > users at the same time. > Their latest effort, Envinsa, seems to be very US centric as many > other additions have been lately. > Us Swedes have been struck twice by language specific changes, and I > am not sure if Universal Translator has been brought up to speed in version 8.5. > My point is that if you aim to an international market, efforts should > be international and not confined to the American market. > > Hdlsning Mats.E > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > :Email/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#9517386: > :---------------------------------------------------------------------: > :Mail/ GISKRAFT, Mats Elfstroem, Vaepplingv 21, SE-227 38 LUND, SWEDEN: > :Phones: +46 46 145959, +46 70 595 3935 : > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Bill Thoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:23:24 +0200 > Subject: Re: [MI-L] feature wish list > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:27:35PM +0100, Lawley, Russell S wrote: > > heres mine: > > > > better pattern/colour /font support for all objects > > > > some proper tools for making layouts that dont look like they have > > been drawn by an amatuer with a crayon(including proper > > map-graticules and wysiwyg legends) > > > > legends that are easier to build, dynamic, show map-visible only > > content and are at last, bug free > > YES! Down with crayons and maps that look like 'toons! Up with maps as art!! > > > > > built in vertical mapper sdk into mapbasic > > This is reasonable now that we don't have to worry about bringing VM > into the .NET environment. The VM SDK needs a bit of an overhaul anyway. I commend all of the entusiasm, but let's get real. MI abandoned 'Grande' because they are adandoning their desktop product. Like have we heard a beep from MI regarding any future plans for MI Pro? Rich -- Richard Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.greenwoodmap.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:20:51 +0800 From: "Data Directions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MI-L] feature wish list To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Further to Richards observation, I also agree that MapInfo should provide the MapInfo-L community with their proposed plans for MapInfo, especially since myself (and others) decided to subscribe to the annual maintenance program primarily because of "the imminent arrival of Grande". One of the key "selling pitches" (though not in an overt way) used at a user group meeting in June (or so) 2005, was that "users on the maintenance plan would receive a beta version of Grande later in the year". Of course that didn't eventuate, but was one of my main reasons for my upgrading to the current release at that user group and then joining the annual maintenance plan. As with other comments on the list, I would like to see some significant changes to the product, especially in the area of producing professional cartographic output, with minimal output. Encom's Discover (an add-on for MapInfo) has certainly made life a lot easier with its Scaled Output, Legend creation and numerous text utilities, mainly because of a series of excellent descriptive dialog boxes with pulldowns that allow the user to achieve a good result. Although I have not used it, I have heard from fellow GIS'ers that ArcGIS map production capabilities are absolutely fantastic .... certainly looking at the annual ESRI Map book that is produced speaks for itself. My MapInfo 9.0 feature list would include the following: - 7 parameter transformation for Australia GDA94 (3 parameter just doesn't cut it) - improved text labelling - improved scaled output functionality (including overlay grids, titleblocks and company logos) - fixing the "bug" of having a layer close or browser close when doing a Table > Maintenance operation - fixing the new 8.5 "zoom to objects extent" when doing a copy/paste operation (a real bugger with text labels) - remember several "previous views" that you can navigate back through (not just the current one-only) - if editing several layers at once, an easy method to change editable and selectable layers (maybe mouse control functionality?) - expanding the 256 colour palette to one where you can easily define additional colour schemes and have 512, 1024 colours ... - add the ability to bring across ArcGIS polygon colours (it can be done as one fellow in Queensland has written a program that does it and sells it for about $ 200 Australian) - better table update functionality so that if you are doing numerous queries and table updates, you don't accidentally overwrite the master data (something Data Assistant does quite well ... yes I know, a plug for my own MapInfo add-on) - when writing an expression for labelling or thematic mapping, offer a function to save the expression (currently have to copy and paste to/from a Wordpad document) - implement significantly better error handing functionality when writing SQL queries or label expressions so that the obscure "Syntax Error - Please correct" message does not appear. For the average user, this message doesn't tell them what to fix. Again third party add-ons such as Discover and Data Assistant offer behind the scenes data validation as the expression is being constructed. - remove the comma which appears in columns defined as small integer or integer (at least have it as a preference to be set of not) - remove the useless error message when creating points that occurs when you pulldown the X-column, and the same column is listed (by default) for the Y-column. This occurs because MapInfo displays the first two numeric columns it encounters in a table. However if the first numeric column contains Sample numbers and the second numeric column contains Longitude it ticks me off to no end to change Sample numbers to Longitude (which by default sits in the Y-column) and have MapInfo ask "Use same column for X and Y field" and then change the Y column anyway because if you click No, it boots you out and expects you to change the Y value first. Anyway, enough rambling for a Sunday arvo ... time to go to the local pub for a brewski. Cheers, Bill ========================================================================= I commend all of the entusiasm, but let's get real. MI abandoned 'Grande' because they are adandoning their desktop product. Like have we heard a beep from MI regarding any future plans for MI Pro? Rich -- Richard Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.greenwoodmap.com _______________________________________________ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:26:59 +0100 From: "Tim Rideout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MI-L] [Spam] Google Earth To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At the recent InterGeo show in Muenchen ESRI and Bentley Systems were both demonstrating a new capability which allowed their users to open Google Earth imagery as another layer within one of their map windows. If you can do this with their software, is it also possible with MapInfo? If so how? Thanks Tim Dr Tim Rideout Director Visit XYZ at the Frankfurt Book Fair, Oct 4 - 8th 2006, Intergeo Munich Oct 10-13th 2006 or IMTA World in Singapore, Nov 2006. 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