Hi Eric,

Thanks for the answers

1.

> Hadoop-docker-ozone.git source tree naming seems to create a unique
process for Ozone.

Not at all. We would like to follow the existing practice which is
established in HADOOP-14898. In HDDS-851 we discussed why we need two
separated repositories for hadoop/ozone: because the limitation of the
dockerhub branch/tag mapping.

I am 100% open to switch to use an other approach. I would suggest to
create a JIRA for that as it requires code modification in the
docker-hadoop-* branches.


2.

> Flagging automated build on dockerhub seems conflicts with Apache
release policy.

Honestly I don't know. It was discussed in HADOOP-14989 and the
connected INFRA ticket and there was no arguments against it. Especially
as we just followed the existing practice and we just followed the
practice which is started by other projects.

Now I checked again the docker related INFRA tickets it seems that we
have two other practice since than:

 1) build docker image on the jenkins (is it compliant?)
 2) get permission to push to the apache/... from local.

You suggested to the the second one. Do you have more information how is
it possible? How and who can request permission to push the
apache/hadoop for example?


3.

>From one point of view, publishing existing, voted releases in docker
images is something like to repackage it. But you may have right and
this is wrong because it should be handled as separated releases.

Do you know any official ASF wiki/doc/mail discussion about managing
docker images? If not, I would suggest to create a new wiki/doc as it
seems that we have no clear answer which is the most compliant way to do it.

4.

Thank you the suggestions to use dockerhub/own namespace to stage docker
images during the build. Sounds good to me. But I also wrote some other
problems in my previous mail (3 b,c,d), this is is just one (3/a). Do
you have any suggestion to solve the other problems?

 * Updating existing images (for example in case of an ssl bug, rebuild
all the existing images with exactly the same payload but updated base
image/os environment)

 * Creating image for older releases (We would like to provide images,
for hadoop 2.6/2.7/2.7/2.8/2.9. Especially for doing automatic testing
with different versions).

Thanks a lot,
Marton


On 1/30/19 6:50 PM, Eric Yang wrote:
> Hi Marton,
> 
> Hi Marton,
> 
> Flagging automated build on dockerhub seems conflicts with Apache release 
> policy.  The vote and release process are manual processes of Apache Way.  
> Therefore, 3 b)-3 d) improvement will be out of reach unless policy changes.
> 
> YARN-7129 is straight forward by using dockerfile-maven-plugin to build 
> docker image locally.  It also checks for existence of /var/run/docker.sock 
> to ensure docker is running.  This allows the docker image to build in 
> developer sandbox, if the developer sandbox mounts the host 
> /var/run/docker.sock.  Maven deploy can configure repository location and 
> authentication credential using ~/.docker/config.json and maven settings.xml. 
>  This can upload release candidate image to release manager's dockerhub 
> account for release vote.  Once the vote passes, the image can be pushed to 
> Apache official dockerhub repository by release manager or an Apache Jenkin 
> job to tag the image and push to Apache account.
> 
> Ozone image and application catalog image are in similar situation that test 
> image can be built and tested locally.  The official voted artifacts can be 
> uploaded to Apache dockerhub account.  Hence, less variant of the same 
> procedure will be great.  Hadoop-docker-ozone.git source tree naming seems to 
> create a unique process for Ozone.  I think it would be preferable to call 
> the Hadoop-docker.git that comprise all docker image builds or 
> dockerfile-maven-plugin approach.
> 
> Regards,
> Eric
> 
> On 1/30/19, 12:56 AM, "Elek, Marton" <e...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>     Thanks Eric the suggestions.
>     
>     Unfortunately (as Anu wrote it) our use-case is slightly different.
>     
>     It was discussed in HADOOP-14898 and HDDS-851 but let me summarize the
>     motivation:
>     
>     We would like to upload containers to the dockerhub for each releases
>     (eg: apache/hadoop:3.2.0)
>     
>     According to the Apache release policy, it's not allowed, to publish
>     snapshot builds (=not voted by PMC) outside of the developer community.
>     
>     1. We started to follow the pattern which is used by other Apache
>     projects: docker containers are just different packaging of the already
>     voted binary releases. Therefore we create the containers from the voted
>     releases. (See [1] as an example)
>     
>     2. With separating the build of the source code and the docker image we
>     get additional benefits: for example we can rebuild the images in case
>     of a security problem in the underlying container OS. This is just a new
>     empty commit on the branch and the original release will be repackaged.
>     
>     3. Technically it would be possible to add the Dockerfile to the source
>     tree and publish the docker image together with the release by the
>     release manager but it's also problematic:
>     
>       a) there is no easy way to stage the images for the vote
>       b) we have no access to the apache dockerhub credentials
>       c) it couldn't be flagged as automated on dockerhub
>       d) It couldn't support the critical updates as I wrote in (2.).
>     
>     So the easy way what we found is ask INFRA to register a branch to the
>     dockerhub to use for the image creation. The build/packaging will be
>     done by the dockerhub but only released artifacts will be included.
>     Because the limitation of the dockerhub to set a map between branch
>     names and tags, we need a new repository instead of the branch (see the
>     comments in HDDS-851 for more details).
>     
>     We also have a different use case to build developer images to create a
>     test cluster. These images will never be uploaded to the hub. We have a
>     Dokcerfile in the source tree for this use case (see HDDS-872). And
>     thank you very much the hint, I will definitely check how YARN-7129 can
>     do it and will try to learn from it.
>     
>     Thanks,
>     Marton
>     
>     
>     [1]: https://github.com/apache/hadoop/tree/docker-hadoop-3
>     
>     
>     
>     On 1/30/19 2:50 AM, Anu Engineer wrote:
>     > Marton please correct me I am wrong, but I believe that without this 
> branch it is hard for us to push to Apache DockerHub. This allows for Apache 
> account integration and dockerHub.
>     > Does YARN publish to the Docker Hub via Apache account?
>     > 
>     > 
>     > Thanks
>     > Anu
>     > 
>     > 
>     > On 1/29/19, 4:54 PM, "Eric Yang" <ey...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     By separating Hadoop docker related build into a separate git 
> repository have some slippery slope.  It is harder to synchronize the changes 
> between two separate source trees.  There is multi-steps process to build 
> jar, tarball, and docker images.  This might be problematic to reproduce.
>     >     
>     >     It would be best to arrange code such that docker image build 
> process can be invoked as part of maven build process.  The profile is 
> activated only if docker is installed and running on the environment.  This 
> allows to produce jar, tarball, and docker images all at once without 
> hindering existing build procedure.
>     >     
>     >     YARN-7129 is one of the examples that making a subproject in YARN 
> to build a docker image that can run in YARN.  It automatically detects 
> presence of docker and build docker image when docker is available.  If 
> docker is not running, the subproject skips and proceed to next sub-project.  
> Please try out YARN-7129 style of build process, and see this is a possible 
> solution to solve docker image generation issue?  Thanks
>     >     
>     >     Regards,
>     >     Eric
>     >     
>     >     On 1/29/19, 3:44 PM, "Arpit Agarwal" 
> <aagar...@cloudera.com.INVALID> wrote:
>     >     
>     >         I’ve requested a new repo hadoop-docker-ozone.git in gitbox.
>     >         
>     >         
>     >         > On Jan 22, 2019, at 4:59 AM, Elek, Marton <e...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
>     >         > 
>     >         > 
>     >         > 
>     >         > TLDR;
>     >         > 
>     >         > I proposed to create a separated git repository for ozone 
> docker images
>     >         > in HDDS-851 (hadoop-docker-ozone.git)
>     >         > 
>     >         > If there is no objections in the next 3 days I will ask an 
> Apache Member
>     >         > to create the repository.
>     >         > 
>     >         > 
>     >         > 
>     >         > 
>     >         > LONG VERSION:
>     >         > 
>     >         > In HADOOP-14898 multiple docker containers and helper scripts 
> are
>     >         > created for Hadoop.
>     >         > 
>     >         > The main goal was to:
>     >         > 
>     >         > 1.) help the development with easy-to-use docker images
>     >         > 2.) provide official hadoop images to make it easy to test 
> new features
>     >         > 
>     >         > As of now we have:
>     >         > 
>     >         > - apache/hadoop-runner image (which contains the required 
> dependency
>     >         > but no hadoop)
>     >         > - apache/hadoop:2 and apache/hadoop:3 images (to try out 
> latest hadoop
>     >         > from 2/3 lines)
>     >         > 
>     >         > The base image to run hadoop (apache/hadoop-runner) is also 
> heavily used
>     >         > for Ozone distribution/development.
>     >         > 
>     >         > The Ozone distribution contains docker-compose based cluster 
> definitions
>     >         > to start various type of clusters and scripts to do 
> smoketesting. (See
>     >         > HADOOP-16063 for more details).
>     >         > 
>     >         > Note: I personally believe that these definitions help a lot 
> to start
>     >         > different type of clusters. For example it could be tricky to 
> try out
>     >         > router based federation as it requires multiple HA clusters. 
> But with a
>     >         > simple docker-compose definition [1] it could be started 
> under 3
>     >         > minutes. (HADOOP-16063 is about creating these definitions 
> for various
>     >         > hdfs/yarn use cases)
>     >         > 
>     >         > As of now we have dedicated branches in the hadoop git 
> repository for
>     >         > the docker images (docker-hadoop-runner, docker-hadoop-2,
>     >         > docker-hadoop-3). It turns out that a separated repository 
> would be more
>     >         > effective as the dockerhub can use only full branch names as 
> tags.
>     >         > 
>     >         > We would like to provide ozone docker images to make the 
> evaluation as
>     >         > easy as 'docker run -d apache/hadoop-ozone:0.3.0', therefore 
> in HDDS-851
>     >         > we agreed to create a separated repository for the 
> hadoop-ozone docker
>     >         > images.
>     >         > 
>     >         > If this approach works well we can also move out the existing
>     >         > docker-hadoop-2/docker-hadoop-3/docker-hadoop-runner branches 
> from
>     >         > hadoop.git to an other separated hadoop-docker.git repository)
>     >         > 
>     >         > Please let me know if you have any comments,
>     >         > 
>     >         > Thanks,
>     >         > Marton
>     >         > 
>     >         > 1: see
>     >         > 
> https://github.com/flokkr/runtime-compose/tree/master/hdfs/routerfeder
>     >         > as an example
>     >         > 
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