Hi, The add-ons are great work. However, my point is that without doing any additional installations the best that a new Mapserver user can achieve is "No query information to decode. QUERY_STRING is set, but empty." while everybody who has installed Geoserver can read WMS GetCapabilities from http://localhost :8080 and either add the service to any WMS or play with the demo viewer: http://demo.opengeo.org/geoserver/topp/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=topp:states&styles=&bbox=-124.73142200000001,24.955967,-66.969849,49.371735&width=780&height=330&srs=EPSG:4326&format=application/openlayers
I still think that the best marketing we could do for Mapserver would be to offer an immediate out-of-box experience for Mapserver users on any platform "Hey, it makes maps! " -Jukka Rahkonen- Jeff McKenna wrote: > Hi Jukka, > Speaking of that, I spent a considerable amount of time for this release > setting up the MS4W add-ons for this version (MapServer 7). Actually this > does handle the needs you mention. Such as OGC: well there is an MS4W add-on > named "MapServer OGC Workshop" that contains so many links to services and > working mapfiles (all working for MapServer 7). Need full applications > working with MapServer 7? : well there is GeoMOOSE (latest release) or > Mapbender (latest release), all ready for you to use with MS4W. Looking for > the original (as in Steve Lime's CGI demo), it works now with MapServer 7 > even, as an MS4W add-on, named "MapServer Itasca Demo Application". :) In total there is over 500 MB of working mapfiles, data, applications ready to get you going. Give them a try: http://www.ms4w.com/download.html See you on the new MS4W list. -jeff -- Jeff McKenna MapServer Consulting and Training Services http://www.gatewaygeomatics.com/ On 2015-09-23 11:39 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > That will be great. I am sure that Mapserver has frightened away thousands of > new users because it is so difficult to make the very first map. Just > compare it with Geoserver that comes with the data_dir and fine collection of > readymade demo services and layers. It is not so easy to make Mapserver demos > which would work out-of-the box on both Windows and Linux, but making it to > work in MS4W will be a good start. > > -Jukka- > > > > -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- > Lähettäjä: Jeff McKenna [mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com] > Lähetetty: 23. syyskuuta 2015 4:18 > Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) > Aihe: Re: [mapserver-users] Announcing the new MS4W > > Hi Jukka, > > Great idea, actually I have something ready from a workshop that can > be used. Will add it with the upcoming GDAL 2.0.1 > > -jeff > > > > On 2015-09-22 10:40 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote: >> Hi Jeff, >> >> I believe that MapServer should offer an immediate "It works" experience for >> new users. Could you consider to include some demo data and mapfiles into >> the standard delivery of MS4W? They could be placed for example into >> \apps\demo. Once they are there we could have WMS GetMap links with >> &FORMAT=image/png and &FORMAT=application/openlayers on a visible place of >> the html page that opens from http://localhost. Or the OpenLayers map could >> even be included on the start page by default. >> >> If you think it is a good idea I can make some first few mapfiles on top of >> Natural Earth countries. It seems to mean about 5 MB extra as zipped but I >> do believe that it would be worth it. I could start with these: >> >> - Hello world WMS - simple but still complete with enough WMS metadata, and >> naturally debug and ms_errorfile. >> - WMS with some styling >> - WMS with labels >> - WMS with GetFeatureInfo >> - WFS >> >> I could also write a short document about how to get the first map with >> shp2img, browser, and with a few GIS program. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >> >> Jeff McKenna wrote: Announcing the new MS4W >> >>> Hi everyone! >> >>> Just in time for FOSS4G-Seoul, I'm very proud to announce the new MS4W[1] >>> MS4W is thriving, as you can see by its long history[2] of releases, and >>> the last few months has seen a lot of development. Much thanks goes to >>> Tanya Haddad for her support for this release, it has been quite an effort >>> updating the full stack (the number of libraries updated and added is large >>> as you see in the recent history). >> >>> You'll also note that there has been releases happening, we just needed a >>> new home for people to find them. It's quite exciting to live at ms4w.com >>> now, and you'll also notice that we have been using a new tracker[3] which >>> has been working well (please feel free to use it). >> >> You may also notice that releases now have a Roadmap[4], every 3 months with >> dated milestones, and you can follow along the exact changes coming through >> the tracker link on that page. >> >> This 3.1.0 release has some tasty features, including optimized >> Apache 2.4, MapServer 7.0, PHP 5.4.45, all mapscripts, Oracle >> support, MapCache >> 1.4.0 (with GDAL support), TinyOWS 1.1.1, spatialite/OSM utilities, and many >> many more goodies. New users might like to start at the features[5] page to >> review. >> >> Finally we have moved to a new mailing list (I haven't been able to >> post to my own old MS4W mailing list for almost 2 years now): please >> join, as all releases will be announced and support given through the >> new MS4W list[6] So, I'll cya there! :) >> >> Thanks so much everyone, I am quite excited. >> >> [1] http://www.ms4w.com/ >> [2] http://www.ms4w.com/HISTORY.html >> [3] http://www.ms4w.com/trac/ >> [4] http://www.ms4w.com/roadmap.html >> [5] http://www.ms4w.com/features.html [6] >> http://lists.ms4w.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ms4w-users >> >> -jeff >> >> > _______________________________________________ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users _______________________________________________ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
