On Mar 12, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Emilio Mayorga wrote:

Puneet & Blaise,

Thank you for your feedback. I test with Firefox and IE, but have
never tried a KHTML-based browser (either Safari or Konqueror). I
didn't realize that Gecko was more forgiving of non-standard HTML than
KHTML, that's great to know.

Well, it may not be true, but that is my guess. Also, keep in mind that Webkit (Apple's extended fork of KHTML) is slightly different, although Apple contributes its changes back to the KHTML project. But the Safari team has been pretty conscientious about sticking to standards. It is surprising to see Gecko doing things differently from Safari.


I don't have access to a Mac, and while
the site is served on a Linux server, I don't have a local linux box
where I could conveniently test on Konqueror. Is there a KHTML-based
browser that runs on Windows that you'd recommend?

Unfortunately, I think you are out of luck. A quick search reveals (from wikipedia)

KHTML and WebKit-based browsers
The open source KHTML layout engine is developed by the KDE project. WebKit is an open-source fork of that engine by Apple Computer.
Konqueror
Safari
ABrowse
Atlantis [1]
OmniWeb
Shiira
SkyKruzer
SunriseBrowser [2]

None of the browsers listed above are for Windows. They are either Linux, or mainly Webkit (Mac OS X), or some other OS.


Unfortunately, my html is old and in table hell, but getting the site
to work on KHTML browsers will be a nice long-term goal.


yeah, I took a peek at the source, and you are right about that. On the other hand, if your app is not going to be used by Konqueror/Safari type users (definitely we are a minority), then it may not be worth it for you to fix it, especially if you can't lay your hands on those browsers to test.




On 3/12/06, Puneet Kishor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:03 AM, blaise wrote:

Same, nice work Emilio, but same, on a my linux box, it displays well
in
Mozilla and Firefox, but the image is misplaced in Konqueror.

Makes sense. Safari is based on KHTML, the basis for Konqueror. Emilio,
keep in mind, for most every part, Safari is totally standards
compliant. So are Gecko-based browsers (Mozilla, Firefox, Camino,
etc.), but they may be more forgiving of non-standard html. I could be
very wrong in this, but generally if it works in Safari, it is
standards-compliant, and will likely work in other standards-compliant
browsers. There are a few Safari (Webkit) specific features, but they
degrade gracefully (although the validation service complains).


On Sunday 12 March 2006 13:00, Puneet Kishor wrote:
Hi Emilio,

Nice work. Some feedback from the Mac side... looks nice in Camino,
but
the image is misplaced in Safari. The image shows up in the top left
corner of the browser instead of in the image box. Hope you can fix
that.

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Puneet Kishor

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