SSH (secure shell access) is available from a number of cheap web hosts (under $10(US) per month) including dreamhost, bluehost, HostMonster and Hosting.com.ru It seems like a logical first step would be to thoroughly address this scenario and move on to "file upload only" after that is successfully handled.
I see a couple of steps:
1. someone with the appropriate level of Linux expertise to experiment with enough of these webhosting services to determine the configurations and settings needed for a broad variety of circumstances (different shells, different Linux flavors); 2. someone with extensive Mapserver expertise to document any dangerous practices that a novice mapserver user should avoid in order to keep from crashing the server or unexpectedly demanding high amounts of bandwidth or memory, that could cause the hosting service to disable the account or charge extra for exceeding account limitations.

I will be attending FOSS4G2007 and would be interested in hearing this discussed.
Tara


Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Peter Shrock wrote:
Dear Tara:

I do not know Linux, However, the approach I wanted to take is valid, if you
could read Novell's tech paper:
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11775.html

Our MapServer Expert Frank Warmerdam also recommended the same approach.
IMHO, this kind of package may be very important for our MapServer community. A few years ago, a friend told me that a student spent three weeks to get mapserver installed. I laughed, as I though that should be a 20-minutes work (at least it is true for ArcIMS, let alone ArcIMS's comprehensie functions). Now, I have spent two months, and did not get it work. Considering human resource cost, MapServer is actually more expensive than ArcIMS.

Peter,

Have you tried installing ArcIMS with only file upload capability? I *feel*
that you hamstrung yourself with a hosting scenario that put you at a
substantial disadvantage (no shell access). I'm reasonably confident that
you would also be doomed installing most proprietary software under
such a scenario.

Would it make sense for the The annual Free and Open Source Software for
Geospatial (FOSS4G) conference discuss this in its coming conference?

I'm sure there will be more discussions.  But the "file upload only"
scenario may still not gain much traction.

Best regards,


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