On Sunday, July 10, 2011 09:34:22 AM Barry Leiba wrote:
> > Can a Standards Track document refer *normatively* to an Experimental
> > document (RFC 4408)?  (Nota bene, I'm all for this document, I'm merely
> > posing the formal question.)
> 
> Indeed; this is a question we'll have to discuss with our AD, to
> figure out what the right way to go is.  There are some people wanting
> to clean up the SPF spec and put it on Standards Track.  Perhaps this
> document can wait for that.  Perhaps this document can be made
> Experimental, and then both docs can move to Standards Track at the
> same time.  Perhaps we can get the IESG to allow the down-ref.  We'll
> have to see.
> 
> Barry, as MARF chair

I've started working on such an update in conjunction with one of the original 
RFC 4408 authors.  Obviously I didn't make the cut off for this IETF, but I 
don't expect this to be a particularly long or difficult process (the 
clarifications needed for a 4408bis are reasonably well documented and minor).

There is a roughly zero percent chance of there being technical changes in 
4408bis that would affect draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting.  The one thing that 
might affect it would be, depending on the relative timing, if we moved the SPF 
modifier registry from draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting to 4408bis.

My intent is to proceed (for now) as if the downref will be allowed.  Doing 
this as experimental and then revising it shortly thereafter seems like 
pointless paperwork to me.  If, down the road, it needs to be adjusted, I'll 
adjust.

Scott K
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