On Tuesday, October 04, 2011 01:02:13 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Scott Kitterman
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:48 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [marf] Comments on
> > draft-ietf-marf-authfailure-report-01.txt
> > 
> > > If we're insisting that we not say you have to report specific ones,
> > > then being completely agnostic seems the right path to me.
> > 
> > I don't see how that follows.
> > 
> > Perhaps the method specific stuff needs to move to the method specific
> > draft so that if someone wants to (later) do a sender-id draft then the
> > can do it.  I'd rather ignore it, but I think making it easier for
> > someone who cares enough about sender-id (or method foo) can do so
> > works too.  I don't think overcomplicating the current effort is a good
> > idea.
> 
> With the changes you and John proposed to the document in WGLC, the
> requirement to report DKIM and SPF results even if you don't check them is
> gone, and furthermore you don't have to include the other fields that are
> irrelevant to what you did check.  It seems to me that leaves us in an
> agnostic place with respect to which message authentication methods you're
> choosing to execute and report, which satisfies what you and John were
> after while also enabling one to report a "sender-id" result.
> 
> What am I missing with this thinking?

I'm not understanding who plans to use sender-id and why add that and not all 
the other auth-results?

Wd do need to define what to do with results for auth-methods one doesn't 
implement or understand (ignore them).  I don't want to force implementers to 
deal with having to write code for methods they aren't interested in.

It's been 5 years since I took a serious look at the Sender ID specs.  I do 
not know how well the SPF modifier proposed in a Sender ID record.  There are 
some subtle differences between the two record types and someone who was 
interested enough in Sender ID to investigate it should take a look before we 
move forward on it.

Scott K
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